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SUNSYN mk2

Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2010 10:27 am
by shaft9000
http://jomox.com/shop/product-details/s ... n1l35.html

not sure I care for the facelift/styling vs. mk1, but it's very very good to know that one of the greatest polys ever made is ....being made again.
There are now 10 available.

Re: SUNSYN mk2

Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2010 2:05 pm
by paugui
It's cool, just a shame the price is a bit too high...

The first version was much cheaper when it was sold in stores, wasn't it?

Re: SUNSYN mk2

Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2010 3:35 pm
by I12
Interesting,
improvements?,
less buggy?,
lots of Q?.

Re: SUNSYN mk2

Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2010 3:38 pm
by Stab Frenzy
It's pretty cheap actually considering it's 8 discrete voices of amazingness. The people whining about the lack of a new polyphonic moog should be buying one of these instead.

Re: SUNSYN mk2

Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2010 4:07 pm
by I12
Looking through the site i saw this, wonder if this is the SSmk2?

This product is available SunSyn OS 2.0 Update


SunSyn OS 2.0 Update
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Prod.No.: 0001028

349.00 €*


The SunSyn has to be sent to Jomox in order to perform the V 2.0 Update. Before doing so, we ask you to schedule the updating with Jomox by phone call or email and purchase this article in the Jomox webshop and pay the amount in advance as advised in the cash desk process.
Then please send the SunSyn to our home adress in Berlin.

The update includes all modifications, the firmware, recalibration and testing. Little repairs might be included if not too timeconsuming.

What's new?

BIOS

1. The SunSyn 2.0 contains a firmware based boot BIOS, which is executing under any circumstances. Most problems with SunSyns in the past came up by wrong OS midi sysex dumpings which, in some cases, led to non-booting and dead devices. This is not possible any more.


RCOs

1. Own waves or short samples can be transferred to the SunSyn by sysex midi dump.
2. We provide an editor (PC/MAC) that can convert any WAV or AIFF files on the computer and transfer them to the SunSyn. Each RCO bank can be transferred separately.
3. The RCO loops now always restart syncronous to a note trigger.
4. You can define a start point and a loop length, to which the RCO jumps back after reaching the end of the bank. Thus you are able to play back short samples of about 1.5 sec length if both old binary loop parameters (Course and Fine Loop) are set to 16.
5. RCO 1 can FM modulate RCO 2 now. However, the processing power of the old DSP is limited so that only one way is possible at an acceptable aliasing and tuning range.
6. The background noise of the RCOs is much improved by a hardware modification in order to let samples being played back much more clean.
More importantly, that improves the whole noise situation of the SunSyn in general.


VCOs

1. The tuning algorithm has been reworked, The VCOs are tuned much cleaner now.
2. The envelopes have got an automatic tuning algorithm, too. The tricky manual envelope tuning is history now.
3. The Pitch Bend Range now is adjustable in semitones across +/- one octave. Also the over- and underrange pitch playing when the VCOs are crossing the borders of the 6 octave keyboard CV range is well performed now.
4. Glide has been completely reworked. Now it works logarithmic as known from old analog synthesizers and has a much more musical knob range.

Multimode

1. The voice card allocation in multimode is cyclic now in order to let releasing voices decay properly even though another voice is triggered.
2. Latency of notes has been much improved and the pipelining has been completely new structured so that hanging and missing notes should be history now.
3. The multimode bugs like wrong output switching, wrong release, routing assignment interdependence, attack and RCO switching have been fixed. However, still there are some limitations for multimode as there are some parameters global and may affect other voices during context switching. These are: Glide, RCO Bank, RCO FM, RCO Start Point and Loop Length. If one of these parameters are different on two multis, changing of sound may occur between sounding voices.

Re: SUNSYN mk2

Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2010 5:23 pm
by Dubersive
How long do you think they'll be offering this version? I really want it, but I'm gonna need a year or two (or three) to save up for the thing... :cry:

Re: SUNSYN mk2

Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2010 6:35 pm
by Alex E
>There are now 10 available.

inb4 like.. that's it. :(

Re: SUNSYN mk2

Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2010 9:25 pm
by shaft9000
If this synth was built in the 80's heydey it would have sold for well beyond $10K in today's dollars when adjusted to inflation. Closer to $15K.
But alas(joy!), you don't have to buy some old 80's synth to get "the sound", because now you can get one brand-new in 2010 for well under $5 K in today's money, so to anyone that thinks it's too expensive please do stop whining.
Remember that they include a UK VAT duty in that listed price which does NOT apply to the U.S., so do the math again.
Stab Frenzy wrote:It's pretty cheap actually considering it's 8 discrete voices of amazingness. The people whining about the lack of a new polyphonic moog should be buying one of these instead.
+1 on the first sentence.
The Sunsyn also has the widest pallette of sounds of any poly I've had, A6 included.

re: the second statement;
i wouldn't say instead. more like as a top 1-3 alternative;
I'd look at an Omega/CODE 1st, or better yet(good luck) a reliable Memorymoog. The Sunsyn is quite unique in sound and use and doesn't really replace anything else or vice-versa. Although at times it can come ridiculously close to a CS-80, JP-4, PPG Wave or Memorymoog's character. The osc and filter are supremely flexible!
Admitting I'd only played the one's I own - and at other times a CS-80 and Trident that weren't side-by-side with anything else - of all the polysynths I've ever used, the Sunsyn has the fattest, thickest ROUNDEST bass. Across several octaves it's just beautifully solid. Bigger than JP-8, OB-Xa or A6. And yes, that is before you mix in any RCO waves!

Re: SUNSYN mk2

Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2010 10:03 pm
by b3groover
Damn shaft... just looking at your equipment list. Can I come over? :D

Re: SUNSYN mk2

Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2010 10:11 pm
by space6oy
wow. sick that they brought that back!

Re: SUNSYN mk2

Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2010 6:06 am
by code green
just...drool. everything about this synth makes me want it.


humorous OT aside: was looking at sunsyn demos on youtube and decided to check out some resonator neuronium vids too...from the comments on one: "Ah, oyster vomit noises...WANT!"

Re: SUNSYN mk2

Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2010 7:42 am
by Stab Frenzy
shaft9000 wrote:
Stab Frenzy wrote:It's pretty cheap actually considering it's 8 discrete voices of amazingness. The people whining about the lack of a new polyphonic moog should be buying one of these instead.
+1 on the first sentence.
The Sunsyn also has the widest pallette of sounds of any poly I've had, A6 included.

re: the second statement;
i wouldn't say instead. more like as a top 1-3 alternative...
I was suggesting it as an alternative to whining. ;)

Re: SUNSYN mk2

Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2010 10:09 am
by shaft9000
LOL (beer spurt, actually)

Re: SUNSYN mk2

Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2010 10:18 am
by sequentialsoftshock
Stab Frenzy wrote:It's pretty cheap actually considering it's 8 discrete voices of amazingness. The people whining about the lack of a new polyphonic moog should be buying one of these instead.
No, what we should do is buy a bunch of Moog bumper stickers and rebrand it :lol: We could make a profit AND stop the whining.

Re: SUNSYN mk2

Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2010 2:50 pm
by Sir Ruff
sequentialsoftshock wrote:
Stab Frenzy wrote:It's pretty cheap actually considering it's 8 discrete voices of amazingness. The people whining about the lack of a new polyphonic moog should be buying one of these instead.
No, what we should do is buy a bunch of Moog bumper stickers and rebrand it :lol: We could make a profit AND stop the whining.
yeah, going halfsies is probably the only way I could afford this thing! I suppose you could justify it if you had a few other mega-polys lying around that you could replace this with-selling a Jup-8 would pretty much get you there-but having any single instrument that was worth that much would pain me.