Level 42 Something about you Clavi sound?

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Re: Level 42 Something about you Clavi sound?

Post by iProg » Fri Feb 18, 2011 5:21 pm

Micke wrote:Update:

The Clavinet on "Something About You" was a DX-7 played by Wally Badarou. He used the Synclavier for portamento counter-melodies and bells.
Always nice to get it confirmed! :)

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Re: Level 42 Something about you Clavi sound?

Post by Lucien » Fri Feb 18, 2011 6:33 pm

He used the Prophet 5 a lot as well. I don't know what's more convincing than straight sound sample from Prophet 5... Again it explains why the TX816 was not used at the Wembley concert for that sound (the lights don't flash during that sequence but they do later on).

You could repro the sound on a DX7 by modulating a pulse+triangle against same stacked wave form. Not easy with DX7 unless you'd stack them but newer FM synth do support other waveforms directly.

UPDATE: here's a comparison (1st original, then played over it):



Since that creates a chorus like effect, here's 2nd comparison with repeating same fifth offset:

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Re: Level 42 Something about you Clavi sound?

Post by Dano » Fri Feb 18, 2011 7:56 pm

Lucien wrote: but newer FM synth do support other waveforms directly.
...like the TX81Z. ;)

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Re: Level 42 Something about you Clavi sound?

Post by Lucien » Fri Feb 18, 2011 7:59 pm

Dano wrote:
Lucien wrote: but newer FM synth do support other waveforms directly.
...like the TX81Z. ;)
Which was released in 1987... Well either way I don't need to be convinced since I got the sound now.
If you can repro the sound with DX7 great. I'd be interested to hear.

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Re: Level 42 Something about you Clavi sound?

Post by Micke » Fri Feb 18, 2011 10:52 pm

Lucien wrote:He used the Prophet 5 a lot as well. I don't know what's more convincing than straight sound sample from Prophet 5... Again it explains why the TX816 was not used at the Wembley concert for that sound (the lights don't flash during that sequence but they do later on).

You could repro the sound on a DX7 by modulating a pulse+triangle against same stacked wave form. Not easy with DX7 unless you'd stack them but newer FM synth do support other waveforms directly.

It was a DX-7, I emailed Wally about it the other day and he confirmed that he played the clavinet part on a DX-7.
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Re: Level 42 Something about you Clavi sound?

Post by bigman2005 » Sat Feb 19, 2011 2:06 am

This is from Saturday Night Live in 1986.

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Re: Level 42 Something about you Clavi sound?

Post by elsongs » Mon Feb 21, 2011 9:41 am

Micke wrote:
It was a DX-7, I emailed Wally about it the other day and he confirmed that he played the clavinet part on a DX-7.
Cool. Now can you ask Wally to share the clav patch parameters or a sysex file? :)

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Re: Level 42 Something about you Clavi sound?

Post by bigman2005 » Mon Feb 21, 2011 6:39 pm

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Re: Level 42 Something about you Clavi sound?

Post by minime123 » Mon Feb 28, 2011 4:12 am

theres some great synth work on level 42 albums! lots of dx7...
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Re: Level 42 Something about you Clavi sound?

Post by Automatic Gainsay » Mon Feb 28, 2011 4:16 am

Every single "clavinet" reference in this thread should be retitled as "clavinet-like."
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Re: Level 42 Something about you Clavi sound?

Post by Max Websta » Tue Mar 01, 2011 9:17 pm

I agree with Marc. My Clavinet C sounds nothing like a Dx7 patch.

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Re: Level 42 Something about you Clavi sound?

Post by Lucien » Tue Mar 01, 2011 10:34 pm

Hey I called it clavi, completely different :D. Especially the metallic sounding attack sounds different. But then again every sound is 'like'. Piano, brass, strings are all approximations including the infamous DX7 Rhodes...

I went through several massive DX7 libraries but nothing could quite repro the attack. Sustain sound no problem and I found at least 3 patches that sounded similar. I also noticed that the lower bass sound is again different (key C2 and then it goes up 1 octave with a different sound).

Here is the original sound and playing repeatedly the P5 attack sound over it to compare better. I think it's pretty decent:


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Re: Level 42 Something about you Clavi sound?

Post by Lucien » Sat Sep 14, 2019 9:07 pm

elsongs wrote:
Mon Feb 21, 2011 9:41 am
Micke wrote:
It was a DX-7, I emailed Wally about it the other day and he confirmed that he played the clavinet part on a DX-7.
Cool. Now can you ask Wally to share the clav patch parameters or a sysex file? :)
Super old thread but just for the record Wally also said around that time he couldn't remember which synth it was other than it couldn't be Synclavier (since n/a at that time at the studio). He also mentioned he provided a sample for the sound for Mike which makes the DX7 highly unlikely since Mike used a TX-816 for live play with plenty of modules.

All I know I can perfectly recreate the sound with Prophet 5 using poly-mod with a saw waveform and the sustain sound is not same as the attack sound. Yet if you change the mod wheel on Prophet you can switch between the 2.

If anyone though has anything close to that sound on DX7 then definitely let me know.

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