VP-330 Vocal Section

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VP-330 Vocal Section

Post by bhrama » Tue Feb 22, 2011 4:30 pm

How unique is this sound? The main reason I love the sound of this synth is the vocal (male/female) section. It speaks to me, no pun intended! Are there any other boards that can do this ethereal sound? I love the stuff Garranimal is doing, and his VST seems spot on, but I'm prefer keyboards to VS.

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Re: VP-330 Vocal Section

Post by MuOdyssey » Tue Feb 22, 2011 7:46 pm

Korg Lambda can get close to some of the VP330 vibe for 1/4 of the price.

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Re: VP-330 Vocal Section

Post by garranimal » Tue Feb 22, 2011 9:08 pm

Thanks bhrama. The voice choirs seem to be completely unique because it takes 7 discrete bandpass filters w/ steep rolloff to get the necessary formant frequencies. Add to that 2-oscillators per voice set an octave apart, plus a nice chorus w/ a very small delay in one channel. To emulate the sound in a hardware synth would take robust polyphony to compile 7 patches/filters in, presumably, multi-mode (multi-timbral) setting. Start by looking at synths that have, at very least, 64 voices to end up with a multi-mode preset that can pull about 9 voices. If the synth has 128 voices even better. But the filters I've found sound nicer have 48 db/oct rolloff. Most synths stop at 24 db/oct, which can get the sound to be in the neighborhood by adding some resonance.

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Re: VP-330 Vocal Section

Post by JJQ » Wed Feb 23, 2011 2:33 am

seriously, there has to be some way.

I cant manage unlimited polyphony and 7 BP-filers...
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Re: VP-330 Vocal Section

Post by garranimal » Wed Feb 23, 2011 4:28 am

Right you are. The more recent workstations like Fantom, Motif, Triton, etc. Rack units might be a way to go. I recently sold a JV-1080 w/ one card for around $175. Looking at the 128-voice XV-3080 on ebay costing $300-400. The oscillators needed are a simple sawtooth. There's just no telling how good (or bad) they might be at generating a 330 sound in a stacked multi-patch manner.

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Re: VP-330 Vocal Section

Post by aeon » Mon Feb 28, 2011 9:30 pm

The Yamaha A5000 sampler can get close, even when using a sawtooth, but it can only do 6 steep bandpasses.

The Clavia Nord Modular series can do some of those tricks.


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Re: VP-330 Vocal Section

Post by garranimal » Tue Mar 01, 2011 5:26 pm

aeon wrote:The Yamaha A5000 sampler can get close, even when using a sawtooth, but it can only do 6 steep bandpasses.

The Clavia Nord Modular series can do some of those tricks.


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Re: VP-330 Vocal Section

Post by chamomileshark » Wed Mar 02, 2011 3:47 pm

Perhaps the Korg DVP-1? It's digital but has a set our choir waves.

If you go to http://share.ovi.com/media/ChamomileSha ... hark.10021 about 3 mins in I go through the waves part. I've noticed there is vibrato on it - on a track where I took the vibrato out one of those waves with the chorus on does sound quite like the VP 330 choir sound.

Retrosound has some more info http://www.retrosound.de/dvp1.html the soundfiles link to my demo.

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