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Re: Korg Monotribe ?

Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2011 2:12 pm
by Stab Frenzy
soundxplorer wrote:
Stab Frenzy wrote:The thing that doesn't make sense to me is the lack of a knob for tuning the VCO. The Monotron VCO isn't stable enough by itself to just need the octave selector switch, so if this is planning on playing with other synths there needs to be some kind of tune knob...
It's not as simple as tuning, the VCO in the Monotron wasn't even designed to track pitch properly. It's more like a wildly unstable LFO that goes into audio territory. It's a very cheap circuit. That's why they still put a little ribbon controller on it instead of keys, or even buttons for notes. I also doubt the Monotribe will let you record pitch via the sequencer. I bet you just get the 8 steps of the sequencer to turn the EG/VCA on and off, then you are left to control the pitch yourself in real time from the ribbon.
That makes a lot of sense actually.

Re: Korg Monotribe ?

Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2011 2:43 pm
by StepLogik
Stab Frenzy wrote:
soundxplorer wrote:
Stab Frenzy wrote:The thing that doesn't make sense to me is the lack of a knob for tuning the VCO. The Monotron VCO isn't stable enough by itself to just need the octave selector switch, so if this is planning on playing with other synths there needs to be some kind of tune knob...
It's not as simple as tuning, the VCO in the Monotron wasn't even designed to track pitch properly. It's more like a wildly unstable LFO that goes into audio territory. It's a very cheap circuit. That's why they still put a little ribbon controller on it instead of keys, or even buttons for notes. I also doubt the Monotribe will let you record pitch via the sequencer. I bet you just get the 8 steps of the sequencer to turn the EG/VCA on and off, then you are left to control the pitch yourself in real time from the ribbon.
That makes a lot of sense actually.
Agreed. I was just thinking that if the sequencer records pitch, there is going to have to be either a ADC (or 8 S/H cells if its all discreet logic) and that is definitely going to add some cost. With the osc being as unstable as it is, each loop through the sequencer is going to result in variance on each step from the previous loop.

Unless there is a microcontroller on board with some "compu-tune" facilities to keep the osc in tune, then I think soundxplorer's reasoning is very sound. having a CPU tune the osc seems like ridiculous overkill for this type of product.

Re: Korg Monotribe ?

Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2011 4:40 pm
by Instrument Panel
I was thinking the same thing as soundxplorer, there may be no sequencing of the synth part at all.
Unless the 'FLUX' button toggles the ribbon controller between continuous and discrete pitch modes?
(Seems unlikely.)

Re: Korg Monotribe ?

Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2011 4:53 pm
by redchapterjubilee
Stab Frenzy wrote:The thing that doesn't make sense to me is the lack of a knob for tuning the VCO. The Monotron VCO isn't stable enough by itself to just need the octave selector switch, so if this is planning on playing with other synths there needs to be some kind of tune knob...
Whoops. I didn't notice that, but that kinda ruins it for being a melodic box. Someone will develop a hack for that.

Re: Korg Monotribe ?

Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2011 5:02 pm
by Syn303
Stab Frenzy wrote:The thing that doesn't make sense to me is the lack of a knob for tuning the VCO. The Monotron VCO isn't stable enough by itself to just need the octave selector switch, so if this is planning on playing with other synths there needs to be some kind of tune knob...
Perhaps this will settle your mind on that matter Stab

Auto-Tuning Analog
The Monotribe's auto-tuning circuitry provides stable chromatic playability, and will not go out of tune. This auto-tuning technology also means no warm-up time, no servicing for pitch calibration, no sensitivity to temperature changes - just the great sound of analog VCO.

Re: Korg Monotribe ?

Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2011 5:04 pm
by StepLogik
Syn303 wrote: Auto-Tuning Analog
The Monotribe's auto-tuning circuitry provides stable chromatic playability, and will not go out of tune. This auto-tuning technology also means no warm-up time, no servicing for pitch calibration, no sensitivity to temperature changes - just the great sound of analog VCO.
i hope they publish the schematics like they did for the monotron. I'm going to be very curious to see how they accomplish the tuning stability.

Re: Korg Monotribe ?

Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2011 5:11 pm
by StepLogik

Re: Korg Monotribe ?

Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2011 5:26 pm
by griffin avid
Korg Monotribe Analogue Ribbon Synthesizer Station
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— Analog Synth + Analog Rhythm + Step Sequencer = Analog Electribe - In a world seemingly ruled by digital, Korg created an analog sensation with the palm-sized monotron Analogue Ribbon Synthesizer. Today, Korg once again takes up the analog banner with the amazing monotribe Analog Ribbon Station; a new form of synthesizer that packs an amazing array of features and technology into its compact body.

Korg's monotribe shares the monotron's analog DNA, yet quickly delves deeper into the rich, organic, and often chaotic world of analog synthesis. In addition to analog synthesis, monotribe brings together intuitive ease of use and a three-part discrete analog rhythm section, plus the proven appeal of Electribe-style sequencing. Complete with built-in speakers and battery power, monotribe is self-contained and highly portable, able to deliver your ideas with style and personality.

True Analog Synthesis

The monotribe's sound engine uses technology old and new, merging the powerful sound of analog synthesis with the dexterity and playability required in today's groove making environments. Analog technology is essential for fast and responsive control, and delivers the full sonic spectrum from warm and easy-going to full-throttle rampage.

Three-Part Analog Drums

The monotribe provides a three-part rhythm section powered by discrete analog circuitry; bass drum, snare, and hi-hat. These three sounds were the key elements in a generation of analog beat making, and are still in demand today. Use these powerful drum sounds to generate distinctive beats attainable only from the monotribe.

Electribe-Style Groove Creation

For over a decade, Korg Electribes have served as the standard tools for dance music and DJ work, and has earned outstanding popularity, even appearing recently as a top-selling iPad app. The fantastic step key interface lives on in monotribe, with a dedicated button for each of the eight steps. This allows realtime, hands-on step editing of not only the drum parts, but also for any synth part sequence played on the ribbon keyboard.

Active Step and Flux Mode

Active Step editing lets you remove or re-insert individual steps, creating short loop-like effects or off-beat patterns that weave in and out of complex rhythms. The step buttons provide this Active Step control during playback, and also provide an instant return to the original 8-step sequence if needed. Flux Mode allows the creation of sequenced synth parts that are not rigidly tied to the step grid, providing more musical versatility. The creation and morphing of edgy beats and stuttering rhythms has never been easier.

Auto-Tuning Analog

Analog synthesizers of yesteryear were prone to drift in pitch. But no more! The monotribe?s auto-tuning circuitry provides stable chromatic playability, and will not go out of tune. This auto-tuning technology also means no warm-up time, no servicing for pitch calibration, no sensitivity to temperature changes - just the great sound of analog VCO.

Multi-Mode Ribbon Keyboard

The ribbon controller keyboard provides three selectable playing modes/ranges. The chromatic mode (KEY) is ideal for playing melodies and bass lines, and stepping smoothly from note to note. Switch to the continuous mode (NARROW) for glides and bends - just as on the monotron. Also available is the wide continuous mode (WIDE) with a six-fold pitch range for dramatic synth zaps and screams. In addition, pressing the Gate Time button will allow the gate time to be sequenced as the ribbon controller keyboard is played.

Classic Analog Components - VCO, LFO, VCA

The VCO offers a choice between sawtooth, triangle and square wave. White noise can mixed in to the oscillator signal in any amount. The Octave selector covers a broad range, from deep bass to piercing lead-lines. Three EG (Envelope Generator) presets provide the VCA with impressive versatility and dexterity. The LFO can be patched to the VCO and/or the VCF, creating impressive dynamic effects. The Range switch allows the LFO to deliver stirring cyclic changes over tens of seconds (SLOW) or superfast (FAST) audio-range FM ringing. Switching the LFO Mode to the 1-shot setting allows the LFO behave as a second envelope generator - a truly powerful addition!

Vintage MS-10/MS-20 Filter

The monotribe features the same VCF circuit found on Korg's classic MS-10 and MS-20 analog semi-patchable synthesizers. Distinctively analog, this sharp and powerful filter adds dramatic change to the sound, imparting the uniquely memorable character of Korg's early analog synthesizers. Using the audio input, any audio source can be enhanced by passing through the filter section. Process an instrument, a voice, or a complete mix form CD or MP3 and create larger than life filter effects!

Sync Jacks: A Return To Modular

The monotribe provides both Sync In and Sync Out jacks, empowering multiple monotribe units to play and work together for a synchronized performance. Not just other monotribes, either. Audio line level pulses can trigger the Sync Input so the monotribe can be synchronized to a DAW system, for example. In addition, the polarity of the pulse waveform can be changed for both the input and output, so you can enjoy synchronized performance with a variety of equipment equipped with Sync connections.

On-The-Go Groove Making

Light, compact, and portable, monotribe is great on the go. Equipped with a built-in speaker and powered by six AA batteries, it is completely self-contained and ready to deliver hours of enjoyment wherever you take it.

The monotribe Analog Ribbon Station - bringing responsive realtime control to analog groove making.

Features/Specifications:

* The powerful sound of true analog synthesis
* 3-part analog drums, using discrete analog circuitry
* Popular Electribe-style sequencing.
* Active Step and Flux features for realtime dynamic loop manipulation
* Advanced multi-function ribbon keyboard; Chromatic, Continuous, & Wide modes
* Auto-tuning provides stable pitch for accurate chromatic playability
* Selectable oscillator waveform, noise generator, and versatile LFO
* Uses the same VCF (filter) circuit as the classic MS-10/MS-20
* Sync In & Out jacks allows synchronized integration with multiple units
* Battery operation, built-in speaker and compact size deliver on-the-go groove-making

Re: Korg Monotribe ?

Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2011 5:36 pm
by Instrument Panel
:thumbleft:

Re: Korg Monotribe ?

Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2011 5:38 pm
by space6oy
who're you quoting, griffin?

Re: Korg Monotribe ?

Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2011 5:40 pm
by griffin avid
Oh the link is from the post above mine.
I sometimes hate outgoing links to see what someone is talking about so I cut and paste the info here.

Re: Korg Monotribe ?

Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2011 5:44 pm
by Stab Frenzy
Syn303 wrote:Auto-Tuning Analog
The Monotribe's auto-tuning circuitry provides stable chromatic playability, and will not go out of tune.
Damn, I was hoping for some "analogue warmth™" ;)

Re: Korg Monotribe ?

Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2011 6:05 pm
by RD9
Wow. They really packed in a lot of features. I'll be officially impressed after I see the price tag.

Re: Korg Monotribe ?

Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2011 6:47 pm
by space6oy
thanks griffin - bunch of catching up on here, checked korg.com but hadn't bothered w/ that link.

Re: Korg Monotribe ?

Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2011 6:54 pm
by Hair
Sounds totally sweet and looks fun as h**l. I'm guessing the analog drums aren't tweakable at all, and more just sound cool - kind of CR-78ish functionally? Definitely interested in hearing how they sound.

My guess is $160 retail ($100 more than the Monotron) - if it's much more, I'll have to really think hard about picking one up new unless it sounds sick, but I'm sure either way second-hand will be quite tempting. I'd rather directly support Korg's new analog foray though.

If this does well enough, maybe in a year or two we'll see something with 2 synth parts and 16-steps? Or 2 oscs and a double length ribbon? MIDI and a keyboard!? - or at least mini-keys, it is korg after all :(