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A MYTH?

Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2011 3:26 pm
by philip
1)Is that actually true that Juno6 sounds fatter than Juno 60?

2)Is that true that Korg Trident sounds different than Korg Triden2 because of different chips?

Re: A MYTH?

Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2011 3:52 pm
by Psy_Free
1. Sound pretty much the same to me. The HPF has a 4 pos selector on the 60, instead of a slider as on the 6, so maybe that contributed to the myth a bit. Also, Juno 6 owners maybe wanted to push it's value up compared to the 60 by saying it sounds fatter.

2. I don't know about different chips, but the MK2 has separate envelopes for VCA & VCF which can change the character of the sound.

Re: A MYTH?

Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2011 4:14 pm
by Automatic Gainsay
1) It's a trick question. NEITHER sounds fat.

2) The best way to find out is to ask someone who has played both Tridents. The odds of you finding that person are very slim. I'd start asking VERY experienced synth techs.

Re: A MYTH?

Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2011 4:39 pm
by meatballfulton
Automatic Gainsay wrote:It's a trick question. NEITHER sounds fat.
:agree:

Re: A MYTH?

Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2011 4:43 pm
by space6oy
plus that would be TWO MYTHS.

Re: A MYTH?

Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2011 6:40 pm
by Sir Ruff
Automatic Gainsay wrote:1) It's a trick question. NEITHER sounds fat.
yeah... the Juno-0.6, with VCOs, always sounded way better!

Re: A MYTH?

Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2011 6:53 pm
by asohn
As an owner of a Juno 60 i would describe their sound as being punchy rather than fat. They ARE good for bass lines, but that has more to do with their envelopes and sub oscillator and not the "fatness" that is usually associated with two or more vco's slightly detuned, because the Junos have dcos and only one osc per voice.

Re: A MYTH?

Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2011 7:07 pm
by Alex E
Juno 6/60 are $400 instruments that have inexplicably exploded in price for no apparent reason. Very confusing.

Re: A MYTH?

Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2011 7:11 pm
by nathanscribe
The sonic differences between the Juno 6 and 60 are minor:

1) HPF slider as mentioned above.
2) VCA level slider, absent on the 6, present on the 60. Allows for a touch of overdriven VCA which can work well for some things, or (and presumably this was the intention) to even out levels between stored patches.

Otherwise they sound EXACTLY THE f**k SAME.

Re: A MYTH?

Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2011 10:11 pm
by Nannerfan
Is there an easy way to mod the HPF on the Juno 60?

Re: A MYTH?

Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2011 10:20 pm
by nathanscribe
Given that the reason they went for a 4-position switch rather than continuous slider was to cram all the patch parameters into the memory available, I'd say no, not if you want to retain recall. In practise I don't find it impedes the flexibility much, if at all. I don't wake sweating in the dark reaches of the night, mad and cackling "if only I could set the Juno 60's HPF to one and a half I could RULE THE WORLD bwahahahaa" or anything.

Re: A MYTH?

Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2011 10:40 pm
by Nannerfan
Well.. I really like it on the Juno-6.. it always tricks me for a sec when I go over to the 60.

Re: A MYTH?

Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2011 11:30 pm
by monolith
nathanscribe wrote: I don't wake sweating in the dark reaches of the night, mad and cackling "if only I could set the Juno 60's HPF to one and a half I could RULE THE WORLD bwahahahaa" or anything.
It would be pretty f**k cool if you did though. :shock:

Re: A MYTH?

Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2011 2:26 am
by V301H
How could some guy in his bedroom with a Juno rule the world? Even truly great men with Moog Modulars, Yamaha GX-1's, Fairlights, Synclaviers, and other incredible equipment while they have often attained substantial monetary wealth have ultimately failed to gain any degree of political power.

Re: A MYTH?

Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2011 8:40 am
by Alex E
You can rule the world with a Korg Poly-800 and a broken Alesis HR-16 if you're creative and talented enough.