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Re: Japan-later period synths

Post by Micke » Sat Jul 16, 2011 5:20 pm

It looks like a casio mt-40.
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Re: Japan-later period synths

Post by calaverasgrande » Sat Jul 16, 2011 7:28 pm

Cybercardinal wrote:Mick Karn on the OB-X (Bass must have been taped?)

What's that little keybaord thingie on top of the OB-X?

well, thats Peter Murphy (of Bauhaus of course) not Japan.
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Re: Japan-later period synths

Post by balma » Sat Jul 16, 2011 10:47 pm

Micke wrote:This is one of my absolute favorite Japan songs:



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Re: Japan-later period synths

Post by James Mandible » Sat Jul 16, 2011 10:59 pm

calaverasgrande wrote:
Cybercardinal wrote:Mick Karn on the OB-X (Bass must have been taped?)

What's that little keybaord thingie on top of the OB-X?

well, thats Peter Murphy (of Bauhaus of course) not Japan.
It's Peter and Karn's project Dali's Car

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Re: Japan-later period synths

Post by Cybercardinal » Sun Jul 17, 2011 8:26 am

Micke wrote:It looks like a casio mt-40.
Great! Thanks Micke. Amazing that little plastic box is delivering that special vibe. I love that record.

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Re: Japan-later period synths

Post by mizu » Sun Jul 17, 2011 4:50 pm

Why hasn't anyone mentioned YMO?

Heavy user of prophet 5

Not much of a Yamaha Lover, if you see there items are not yamaha the most famous cheap item they used was a roland tr 808.


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Re: Japan-later period synths

Post by Micke » Sun Jul 17, 2011 5:45 pm

This is like a demo for the Prophet 5 rev 2 (all played by Ryuichi Sakamoto):

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Post by calaverasgrande » Sun Jul 17, 2011 7:19 pm

mizu wrote:Why hasn't anyone mentioned YMO?

Heavy user of prophet 5

Not much of a Yamaha Lover, if you see there items are not yamaha the most famous cheap item they used was a roland tr 808.

I have kind of mixed feelings about YMO. They have Ryuchi Sakamoto so it must be good right? I seem to recall liking them at some point in the 80s. But when I look at videos like this I hear very uninspiring timbres and what sounds like standard jpop, minus vocals.

As far as Dali's car, I was never a big Bauhaus fan, less so of Peter Murphy Solo. I tried liking Dalis car but I felt like Mick was under playing. Like on that video, the bass line has to be the siomplest most repetitive thing I ever heard come from Mick Karn. One of the only ones I can play all the way through on bass!
But hey, either way it isn't Japan so it doesnt really answer the question about late period Japan synths.
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Re: Japan-later period synths

Post by visceralvoids » Sun Jul 17, 2011 10:14 pm

Micke wrote:Ghosts is not all about the P5 though,, the OB-X and system 700 lab are also featured in this song
Thanks Micke, I always wondered about this. I never noticed the OB-X on "Oil On Canvas" until you guys pointed it out. Barbieri has got this look on his face during the concert like "Please stay in tune!!!"
I just love the sound of the Prophet. There is a YouTube video of someone playing a broken Prophet 5 and it STILL sounds great, like John Carpenter just messing around.
calaverasgrande wrote:As far as Dali's car, I was never a big Bauhaus fan, less so of Peter Murphy Solo. I tried liking Dalis car but I felt like Mick was under playing.
Even his first solo album "Titles" has got way more bass action on it than Dali's Car (it also features the rare Movement drum machine). This was around the time Mick Karn decided to put the bass more in the background, focusing more on composing. He did this until his 3rd solo album "Bestial Cluster" where he brought the bass more to the lead role again. I can't say enough about Mick Karn (RIP), his bass playing is funky, weird and deceptivley simple.

The best Bauhaus album for me is "Sky's Gone Out", it's total dark experimental post-punk. I can't believe they got away with releasing some of the stuff that's on there. Not much synth action on it but plenty of creativity, strange guitar treatments, studio and tape tricks.

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Re: Japan-later period synths

Post by calaverasgrande » Mon Jul 18, 2011 2:57 am

yeah I am well familiar with the whole Bauhaus canon. It was kind of de rigeur if you were dating black clad chicks in the 80's.
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Re: Japan-later period synths

Post by mizu » Mon Jul 18, 2011 3:43 am

calaverasgrande wrote:
mizu wrote:Why hasn't anyone mentioned YMO?

Heavy user of prophet 5

Not much of a Yamaha Lover, if you see there items are not yamaha the most famous cheap item they used was a roland tr 808.

I have kind of mixed feelings about YMO. They have Ryuchi Sakamoto so it must be good right? I seem to recall liking them at some point in the 80s. But when I look at videos like this I hear very uninspiring timbres and what sounds like standard jpop, minus vocals.

As far as Dali's car, I was never a big Bauhaus fan, less so of Peter Murphy Solo. I tried liking Dalis car but I felt like Mick was under playing. Like on that video, the bass line has to be the siomplest most repetitive thing I ever heard come from Mick Karn. One of the only ones I can play all the way through on bass!
But hey, either way it isn't Japan so it doesnt really answer the question about late period Japan synths.
I would say J Pop is having stupider music these days. I don't understand AKB 48 er something. I also like kraftwerk btw

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Re: Japan-later period synths

Post by Micke » Mon Jul 18, 2011 2:23 pm

visceralvoids wrote:
Micke wrote:Ghosts is not all about the P5 though,, the OB-X and system 700 lab are also featured in this song
Thanks Micke, I always wondered about this. I never noticed the OB-X on "Oil On Canvas" until you guys pointed it out. Barbieri has got this look on his face during the concert like "Please stay in tune!!!"
I just love the sound of the Prophet. There is a YouTube video of someone playing a broken Prophet 5 and it STILL sounds great, like John Carpenter just messing around.
You're welcome :)

You can see Barbieri playing the OB-X in this video clip too (from 2:32-2:38):


Note the Prophet 10 in the background.

About 75% of the synth sounds on Oil On Canvas are OB-X.
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Re: Japan-later period synths

Post by Micke » Mon Jul 18, 2011 4:00 pm

visceralvoids wrote: I just love the sound of the Prophet. There is a YouTube video of someone playing a broken Prophet 5 and it STILL sounds great, like John Carpenter just messing around.
So do I, and I love John Carpenter's movies/scores too.
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Re: Japan-later period synths

Post by japan » Fri Sep 09, 2011 10:37 am

It's "Sylvian", not "Sylvain", btw. We are talking about Japan, not New York Dolls... :D
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Re: Japan-later period synths

Post by Micke » Fri Sep 09, 2011 1:26 pm

Right you are!
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