Casio CZ-1

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Casio CZ-1

Post by kerpan » Fri Aug 12, 2011 6:28 am

Just jumped into my CZ-1, and started editing.
It sounds good, though a bit of a change from my Juno-106 and JX-10.
Anyways, I'm a synth newb, and unfamiliar with phase distortion synthesis in general.

Anybody have any fun CZ tips and tricks?
I'm not looking for a tutorial or guide, just some fun quirks to the synth if you've got any.

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Re: Casio CZ-1

Post by MitchXI » Fri Aug 12, 2011 2:15 pm

The reso waves are a bit like sync.

Combining two waveforms makes a nice sub-octave tone because they are played sequentially, not mixed.

I believe.

I've read through the Casio phase distortion patents, haven't ever played with one of these yet though.

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Re: Casio CZ-1

Post by meatballfulton » Fri Aug 12, 2011 7:23 pm

The most fun part of the CZ engine is the 8-stage envelopes, a good place to explore if you're used to the traditional ADSR envelopes.
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Re: Casio CZ-1

Post by salwa » Fri Aug 12, 2011 9:50 pm

Maybe you already seen that, but Deep Synthesis page on Casio Cz-1 helped me a lot:
http://homepage.mac.com/synth_seal/html/cz1.html
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Re: Casio CZ-1

Post by ColorForm2113 » Sat Aug 13, 2011 4:46 pm

meatballfulton wrote:The most fun part of the CZ engine is the 8-stage envelopes, a good place to explore if you're used to the traditional ADSR envelopes.
YES! you can make pseudo-arpegiators with these. only one shot but still fun. if you want to get more of a subtractive style synthesis out of the cz think of the first four stages of the envelopes as ADSR, end on the 4th stage and sustain on the 3rd . and the cz plays really nicely with external effects, i was putting my cz5000 through my moogerfooger murf, lowpass, and phaser the other day and it sounded very polymoog-ish :shock:

there are tons of combinations and different ways you can layer (i believe the cz1 is bi-timberal too, right?) the waveforms experiment with that without using the DCW section so you can get an idea on how they all sound together.

its a wonderful synth enjoy!
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Re: Casio CZ-1

Post by kerpan » Mon Aug 15, 2011 5:19 am

Thanks for all of the replies. These are good suggestions.

I started writing some patches, and I'm really having a good time with the CZ. It just gets so raunchy. The chorus sounds a bit cheap, but it sounds like it'll play nicely in a dense mix.

Anyways, I'll try these tips out.
Thanks!

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Re: Casio CZ-1

Post by Juno6 » Mon Aug 15, 2011 7:03 am

CZs are good at percussive sounds. Modulate pitch with an envelope with only a simple attack-decay envelope, with the fastest possible attack and decay times. The attack level should be at maximum.

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Re: Casio CZ-1

Post by kerpan » Mon Aug 15, 2011 9:08 am

yeah, I'm getting lots of good glitchy/clippy percussive sounds out of the CZ. I'm really digging the layering.

When I stack the tones, and use up most of the polyphony, the glitchy mayhem gets more intense.

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