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Re: Gear Envy.

Post by griffin avid » Wed Oct 05, 2011 8:09 pm

This picture is a perfect example...

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This is obviously organized. I bet whoever ran the cables completely understands why, where and how, but to anyone looking on- this is not a neat set up by any means.

Sometimes you just gotta fight the Disagree-Knee-j**k reaction.
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Re: Gear Envy.

Post by metrosonus » Wed Oct 05, 2011 8:58 pm

griffin avid wrote:then people that slave and slave away over what little gear they have never get any credit for it or their music..

I don't get this. Music leads the way. If your music is good THEN people care about what you use.
well yea, but I meant in microcosms like this. very hardly if ever does someone start a thread like "hey i cliked so and so's sig and man they have have some good music!" It happens, but infrequently.

Maybe I belong in the looney bin, but i'd rather hear someone's music than see gear pics over and over. it's just a bit unbalanced.. to me, hearing the music is more personal and I agree with you, if i like it i'll want to know what was used or how it was made..

I hear every now and then that people say "ohh it's personal.. and I don't like to share" but then they have no problem trying to get their high fives by posting gear pics :lol:

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Re: Gear Envy.

Post by griffin avid » Wed Oct 05, 2011 9:12 pm

Well said, indeed.
I think in some strange way, Gear unites us better than music.
I think we have less gear choices than musical tastes.
I find some people on here interesting, but don't really like their msuic.
Some others...I don't even know what they make because I don't click on every sig or bother to check every profile just to find out.

AND don't we all have like gear in our sigs for the most part or under the avatars...
I guess it's Vintage SYNTH explorer and not some kind of electronic music forum.
Truth be told, the Listening Lounge is still kinda quiet.

I guess the gear IS more important than the music round these parts.
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Re: Gear Envy.

Post by tekkentool » Wed Oct 05, 2011 11:14 pm

As long as the space I am in is quiet I basically have no trouble.

On the subject of gear setup sizes and credit.

Lots of people work on little setups and get plenty of credit for it. Skrillex hit it big making everything on a Macbook pro and a broken set of monitors, I'm pretty sure he's doing okay. Your gear honestly has very little to do with the quality of your music.

It's just about the quality of music, nothing else. Gear envy is the same as looking at a mans collection of cars, they may not be good racers but the collection of cars is damn impressive and I sure wouldn't mind all those cars...

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Re: Gear Envy.

Post by griffin avid » Thu Oct 06, 2011 12:52 am

Your gear honestly has very little to do with the quality of your music.

Quality as in Creative/Originality Quality or do you mean SOUND (as in sonic) quality.
And I don't mean to use the disclaimer of lo-fi genres....I mean Pure Audio Quality.

Unless of course you mean gear as in Synths and Drum machines and are ignoring all the other gear in a studio.
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Re: Gear Envy.

Post by bhrama » Thu Oct 06, 2011 1:41 am

tallowwaters wrote:
griffin avid wrote:
Besides that, a neat studio isn't making any music. 8-)

That's bullshit, I can't work in an unorganized space.
+1, I need to be streamlined and clean in my environment. Probably some form of OCD...

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Re: Gear Envy.

Post by tallowwaters » Thu Oct 06, 2011 2:00 am

griffin avid wrote:That's bullshit, I can't work in an unorganized space.

I never said Unorganized...I said Neat.
:roll:

Sorry Marc, didn't know you were arguing semantics.

My studio is always neat. Any cable that is out is currently being used or it's going to be put away. All gear has its own space that it stays in, all cables out are kept bundled in a neat fashion, everything is laid out ergonomically, etc. Any of my friends and family would describe my setup as "neat".

Don't worry, I know it's hard to fight the disagree-for-the-sake-of-reading-your-own-post reaction.
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Re: Gear Envy.

Post by Automatic Gainsay » Thu Oct 06, 2011 2:02 am

tekkentool wrote:Oh come on :lol: I produce music entirely with a computer. I'm not in any danger of being marc any time soon. (hopefully :| )
Psh. That's for sure.
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Re: Gear Envy.

Post by Automatic Gainsay » Thu Oct 06, 2011 2:06 am

tallowwaters wrote:Sorry Marc, didn't know you were arguing semantics.
b***h, you betta check yoself.
I live in YO state, now.
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Re: Gear Envy.

Post by tekkentool » Thu Oct 06, 2011 2:19 am

griffin avid wrote:Your gear honestly has very little to do with the quality of your music.

Quality as in Creative/Originality Quality or do you mean SOUND (as in sonic) quality.
And I don't mean to use the disclaimer of lo-fi genres....I mean Pure Audio Quality.

Unless of course you mean gear as in Synths and Drum machines and are ignoring all the other gear in a studio.
That's the part I'm ignoring the least, I care far more about processing than the individual synthesizers.

You don't need a studio full of gear to make a good electronic music record. You just need a laptop and a nice pair of headphones. Just like you don't need a nice room and a 5000 dollar Plus Kit to get good drums. I mention it a lot but periphery's self titled debut has all of the drums programmed in superior drummer 2.0 and the guitars done with a pod 3.0. All recorded in his bedroom.

That album sounds incredible but very little gear of any expense/rarity was used while recording it. Just a lot of ingenuity and skill was applied.

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Re: Gear Envy.

Post by tallowwaters » Thu Oct 06, 2011 2:45 am

Automatic Gainsay wrote:
tallowwaters wrote:Sorry Marc, didn't know you were arguing semantics.
b***h, you betta check yoself.
I live in YO state, now.
I suppose the inverse of your threat could hold true as well.

You do argue semantics much better; so much, that I tend to give up and simply troll you.
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Re: Gear Envy.

Post by tekkentool » Thu Oct 06, 2011 3:51 am

No, Phat is when there is a huge amount of 8-11Khz presence to the sound. "Look at that phat Hi-hat" you would say.

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Re: Gear Envy.

Post by metrosonus » Thu Oct 06, 2011 1:25 pm

griffin avid wrote:Well said, indeed.
I think in some strange way, Gear unites us better than music.
I think we have less gear choices than musical tastes.
I find some people on here interesting, but don't really like their msuic.
Some others...I don't even know what they make because I don't click on every sig or bother to check every profile just to find out.

AND don't we all have like gear in our sigs for the most part or under the avatars...
I guess it's Vintage SYNTH explorer and not some kind of electronic music forum.
Truth be told, the Listening Lounge is still kinda quiet.

I guess the gear IS more important than the music round these parts.
it's a universal problem :lol: most of the talk about playing goes on in the keyboarding forums (the rompler folks).

don't get me wrong, I like gear pics, but they're all samey after a while. I do like a nicely shot pic, or a room that's been decorated or has some style to it, or a live pic.

I also think though that the music is just part 2 of the whole experience. but i also know first hand that sometimes that comes second.. with a family, work, kids etc it's hard to sit down and actually get something out there and talking / posting pics about gear is just what keeps the fires lit. I'm cool with that..

but as i said, i'd like to see more of balance.. but then again, that may just be me :D

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Re: Gear Envy.

Post by griffin avid » Thu Oct 06, 2011 1:45 pm

I guess it also stems from the fact that *serious* artists tend to be absorbed in/by their own music.
While you're on your own musical journey, do you really care about what's happening to your right and left?
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Re: Gear Envy.

Post by tekkentool » Thu Oct 06, 2011 1:47 pm

I don't. Somebody with actual OCD (not internet OCD) might though.

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