Make high quality digi synth sound Exactly analogue

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Re: Make high quality digi synth sound Exactly analogue

Post by zoomtheline » Sat Apr 14, 2012 10:05 am

You will never be able to replicate an analogue sound from a synth with software as each sound coming from an analogue synth is so different from model to model. h**l, even the sound from the same synth may slightly vary from itself depending on outside factors.
I think you need to get a cheap digi synth and listen to the raw wave and filter it, then get a cheap analogue (monotron should not break the bank) and do the same. Although you are only going to hear the difference between these two synths, other digi and analogue synths will probably sound even further away from each other to the point you may not tell which is analogue and what isn't anymore.

In short... It will be possible for people to create random algorithms to replicate the random stuff that happens to analogue circuits but it will not sound like any one synth it will just be replicating what is possibly going on.

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Re: Make high quality digi synth sound Exactly analogue

Post by CS_TBL » Sat Apr 14, 2012 11:07 am

It all boils down to:

1) No one of your potential audience cares. Not for bare unattended sawtooths, not for any difference there may be between those sawtooths.

2) If, as a producer, you spend your time watching an oscilloscope to see if there's really no difference between the sawtooths of two synths, then you've got too much spare time anyway.

3) If you have four sawtooths which sound mostly identical apart from the last few percent, and if you rank them beyond being practical because of that, then you're just not creative enough. I couldn't care less about all these details. Give me 'some' oscillator/operator (I don't give a rat's a*s whether it's digital, VA or RA) and I'll manage.
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Re: Make high quality digi synth sound Exactly analogue

Post by Phollop Willing PA » Sat Apr 14, 2012 1:42 pm

Just get one of these:

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Re: Make high quality digi synth sound Exactly analogue

Post by tekkentool » Sat Apr 14, 2012 2:53 pm

CS_TBL wrote:It all boils down to:

1) The Truth
2) Double Truth.
3) Going into OverTruth.
Plenty of people out there making great stuff ITB, plenty of people using hardware and making great stuff.

The aim is to make great stuff and however you get there is down to preference.

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Re: Make high quality digi synth sound Exactly analogue

Post by Cumulus » Sat Apr 14, 2012 5:11 pm

5 pages of troll feeding. I say we bury this thread once and for all

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Re: Make high quality digi synth sound Exactly analogue

Post by bouzoukijoe1 » Sat Apr 14, 2012 7:23 pm

tekkentool wrote:
CS_TBL wrote:It all boils down to:

1) The Truth
2) Double Truth.
3) Going into OverTruth.
+10

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Re: Make high quality digi synth sound Exactly analogue

Post by Ned Bouhalassa » Sat Apr 14, 2012 7:57 pm

Cumulus wrote:5 pages of troll feeding. I say we bury this thread once and for all
And I have just the place for it...

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Re: Make high quality digi synth sound Exactly analogue

Post by Don T » Sat Apr 14, 2012 7:59 pm

Cumulus wrote:5 pages of troll feeding. I say we bury this thread once and for all
This has my vote.
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Re: Make high quality digi synth sound Exactly analogue

Post by CS_TBL » Sat Apr 14, 2012 8:17 pm

but.. but..

Beating dead horses can be hilarious! :lol:
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Re: Make high quality digi synth sound Exactly analogue

Post by bouzoukijoe1 » Sat Apr 14, 2012 8:37 pm

CS_TBL wrote:but.. but..

Beating dead horses can be hilarious! :lol:
I thought I was the only one who was into dead horse beating.

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Re: Make high quality digi synth sound Exactly analogue

Post by GuyaGuy » Sat Apr 14, 2012 11:42 pm

bouzoukijoe1 wrote:
CS_TBL wrote:but.. but..

Beating dead horses can be hilarious! :lol:
I thought I was the only one who was into dead horse beating.
tekentool does it in every post.

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Re: Make high quality digi synth sound Exactly analogue

Post by tekkentool » Sun Apr 15, 2012 1:40 am

GuyaGuy wrote:
bouzoukijoe1 wrote:
CS_TBL wrote:but.. but..

Beating dead horses can be hilarious! :lol:
I thought I was the only one who was into dead horse beating.
tekentool does it in every post.
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Re: Make high quality digi synth sound Exactly analogue

Post by GuyaGuy » Sun Apr 15, 2012 2:28 am

Seewhatimsayin?

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Re: Make high quality digi synth sound Exactly analogue

Post by Stab Frenzy » Sun Apr 15, 2012 2:41 am

vox345 wrote:This is not another analog vs digital train wreck thread or anything.

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Re: Make high quality digi synth sound Exactly analogue

Post by tekkentool » Sun Apr 15, 2012 4:32 am

Stab Frenzy wrote:
vox345 wrote:This is not another analog vs digital train wreck thread or anything.
I think the real problem here is that you replied without knowing what yer talking about.

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