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Re: New synth from Roland?

Post by Fredthehound » Fri Aug 31, 2012 8:07 pm

Having been in a VIP room in a Vegas strip Club with a dozen Japanese guys from a major Japanese corp...trust me...you don't want to be there when it happens ;)

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Re: New synth from Roland?

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VTEC just kicked in yo.

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Re: New synth from Roland?

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Re: New synth from Roland?

Post by madmarkmagee » Sun Sep 02, 2012 3:28 pm

:facepalm: + 1

Who writes these demo tracks?

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Re: New synth from Roland?

Post by StepLogik » Sun Sep 02, 2012 4:48 pm

Same sounds since the JV series :facepalm:

Roland has been selling the same crappy soundset for years (I've owned every iteration from JV to G-series). The only thing that changes is the box and the marketing. I've always thought Roland ROMplers did decent organ and strings but that doesn't justify the cost of these karaoke-sounding machines.

If you want decent bread-and-butter sounds, get a Yamaha Motif or a Kurzweil.

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Re: New synth from Roland?

Post by adhmzaiusz » Sun Sep 02, 2012 7:13 pm

StepLogik wrote: :facepalm:
madmarkmagee wrote: :facepalm: + 1
philip wrote: :facepalm:
Due to popular demand, I vote the facepalm emoticon name change to the "roland emoticon"
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Re: New synth from Roland?

Post by Hybrid88 » Sun Sep 02, 2012 7:27 pm

adhmzaiusz wrote:
StepLogik wrote: :facepalm:
madmarkmagee wrote: :facepalm: + 1
philip wrote: :facepalm:
Due to popular demand, I vote the facepalm emoticon name change to the "roland emoticon"
All in favour? Aye! :)

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Re: New synth from Roland?

Post by kuroichi » Sun Sep 02, 2012 8:12 pm

adhmzaiusz wrote:
StepLogik wrote: :facepalm:
madmarkmagee wrote: :facepalm: + 1
philip wrote: :facepalm:
Due to popular demand, I vote the facepalm emoticon name change to the "roland emoticon"
I agree...

Lets face facts, Roland has been s**t for years.
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Re: New synth from Roland?

Post by griffin avid » Sun Sep 02, 2012 8:44 pm

I know I'm in the middle of the Roland-Bash-fest
but it's a little hard to take all of this seriously when it all stems from them not making a monster analogue from their past, which is also a synth you probably wouldn't/couldn't have bought when it was new, if you were around then.

1. It's a demo. There's something wrong, if you're judging a board by the song making skills of whoever makes the demos.

2. You should be going by sonic character, which means you'd be talking about SOUNDS and not SONGS. ahem.
And those that are...okay....valid point. Don't like the sounds. Gotcha.

3. I don't know who makes entire songs in one board. I certainly don't because they tend to sound like interesting demo songs. There's not enough sonic variety in any instrument that uses a singular engine. Even my most powerful analogue beast, I wouldn't do it. Bands don't sound like that for a reason..

4. I don't think judging Roland strictly by whether or not they make a Jup-- eh who cares.
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I dunno...KORG is still the king of fun gadgets and Yamaha has a single ROMpler still kicking around.
So, exactly, who is blazing a new trail for all to follow?
Either everyone Sucks or they are all doing what they do. No recent change in their direction(s)
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Re: New synth from Roland?

Post by adhmzaiusz » Sun Sep 02, 2012 9:10 pm

griffin avid wrote:I know I'm in the middle of the Roland-Bash-fest
but it's a little hard to take all of this seriously when it all stems from them not making a monster analogue from their past
I'm sure it's an alright synth. But most likely nothing special, Roland used to be the greatest company for making special things. I think a lot of people are just frustrated with Roland because they've never listened to what the people want, ever. But that worked for them before when they actually had a unique vision. They seem to still be of the attitude "we design the future" without realizing that they have no idea of what the future is anymore. Oh well, I'm still hopeful that Roland can make something groundbreaking again one day... digital, analog, whatever
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Re: New synth from Roland?

Post by salwa » Sun Sep 02, 2012 9:29 pm

Maybe their marketing target are people producing easy listening, no-copyright muzak for elevators? Then it make sense. Otherwise it remindes me my jv2080 demos.
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Re: New synth from Roland?

Post by CS_TBL » Sun Sep 02, 2012 9:58 pm

adhmzaiusz wrote:They seem to still be of the attitude "we design the future" without realizing that they have no idea of what the future is anymore.
The problem, as far as I see it, is that they've been outpaced by technology. Without aiming at another HW vs SW debate, but when the industry has been using sample libraries of over a hundred gigabytes for about a decade, then this industry laughs at 'new' Roland synthesizers that come with a "whopping" 128MB worth o' samples that sound like they're up-souped 90's samples. They'll laugh at their 'new techniques to have legato transitions between notes' - though legato samples are getting quite common these days.

So, when the ROMpler is dated, what's left is are non-sample based synths, and they'll have some stiff competition there. Aren't they allowed to make ROMplers then? Sure they may, but shouting out they've invented something 'new' is a bit laughable (at least towards the high end section of the industry). Naturally, Joe Average may not know and may actually like all these new gimmicks. Question is who Roland's audience is these days, may as well not be your average VSE/KVR crowd.
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Re: New synth from Roland?

Post by Stab Frenzy » Mon Sep 03, 2012 1:22 am

adhmzaiusz wrote:I'm sure it's an alright synth. But most likely nothing special, Roland used to be the greatest company for making special things. I think a lot of people are just frustrated with Roland because they've never listened to what the people want, ever. But that worked for them before when they actually had a unique vision. They seem to still be of the attitude "we design the future" without realizing that they have no idea of what the future is anymore. Oh well, I'm still hopeful that Roland can make something groundbreaking again one day... digital, analog, whatever
Actually Roland have a long history of making 'futuristic' gear that was incredibly unpopular when first released. The TB-303 was such a poor seller that they were giving them away free with every JC-120 sold after only two years on the market. People still don't really have an appreciation for what the V-Synth can do and they go for a fraction of what they're really worth.

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Re: New synth from Roland?

Post by griffin avid » Mon Sep 03, 2012 1:36 am

all these new gimmicks. Question is who Roland's audience is these days, may as well not be your average VSE/KVR crowd."
I think their audience is the same as always. In the past people adopted their offerings. As stated above theve made their tools for one group and it became popular for another after some period. I also add a person who would buy a romper style keyboard ain't the vst nut on kvr gushing over plug ins. Or software for that matter and as far as keyboardists are concerned, they tend to rely on their own playing and presets and usually don't need something "cutting edge" to sit down in front of. These companies are using famous players not programmers to showcase their wares. That's a big hint. Haven't seen Jordan rudess program a patch as part of his demo vids yet. Maybe he has but I haven't seen one.
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Re: New synth from Roland?

Post by tallowwaters » Mon Sep 03, 2012 2:27 am

CS_TBL wrote:I figure he likes f**k..
I figure he'll find out soon enough if that sort of tirade were to continue.
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