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Re: best 'choir' patches?

Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2012 3:10 am
by garranimal
cornutt wrote:
garranimal wrote:The Kawai K5000 series synths are most excellent for choir, has a 128-band formant filter.
It does? Damn, I didn't know that. I knew it had a lowpass filter, but... Question that occurs to me: Is it really a filter, or is it manipulating the partial levels in the additive engine.

I'm all jealous now... the K5 doesn't have that.
That's the kicker, it has it ALL. Yes there's a lowpass filter. Yes the additive sound engine has full control for setting the starting partial values, and has a level envelope for each and every partial that makes up your patch....

AND THEN passes this audio through a fully independent 128-band formant filter. Each and every formant band has its own level setting. If that seems too static, the formant filter also has a dedicated envelope contour to animate the sound further. Think of the formant filter envelope as an EQ boost or cut that can start anywhere in the formant range and sweep up or down to emphasize/de-emphasize parts of the formant filter range over time. It's mind boggling.

Re: best 'choir' patches?

Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2012 2:27 am
by DesolationBlvd
I stupidly wiped my MKS-80's tones and patches trying to load the factory presets.

I got a great analog choir out of the Alpha Juno. The secret is the "PWM sawtooth", medium resonance (not too high, otherwise it "rings"), and of course the internal chorus.

Re: best 'choir' patches?

Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2012 2:52 am
by nvining
One of the choir patches that comes with the Rhodes Chroma CC+ Upgrade is pretty good, especially with a little bit of reverb. I think it's bank 3, patch 36 or something like that. Then again, everything sounds good with enough reverb.

While I don't own one, I've also been listening to demos of the Yamaha FS1R recently, which seems to do a lot of interesting things with its "formant filtering". Sounds fun to my ears, but then I have yet to actually get ahold of a unit to test.

Re: best 'choir' patches?

Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2012 8:35 am
by Zamise
I don't know, but my RS7000 has a couple choir voices. I think if you prob put a lo-fi around 1.2 khz give a little tweek around that while you play effect plus talk modulation, beat all the above posts.

Re: best 'choir' patches?

Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2012 9:46 am
by tekkentool
Like...bitcrushing down to 1.2 Khz?

good choir?

Wat?

Re: best 'choir' patches?

Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 12:45 am
by orlando56
Does the Polymoog Vox Humana patch count? In any case, one of the greatest synth sounds ever.

Re: best 'choir' patches?

Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 6:06 am
by Zamise
tekkentool wrote:Like...bitcrushing down to 1.2 Khz?

good choir?

Wat?

Yeah maybe, gives it a more vocal sound, maybe, robotic choir ;)

Re: best 'choir' patches?

Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 9:26 pm
by ItsMeOnly
Best realistic choir? Prosonus library (also for CMI series III).

Re: best 'choir' patches?

Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2012 11:25 am
by vcs3
Don't forget the Yamaha FS1r choir.

Re: best 'choir' patches?

Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2012 6:29 pm
by mama.
Does anyone else find choir patches unsettling? I have 3 of 4 different collections of mellotron choir samples, and an e-mu emax with the "mixed choir" factory disk... from what I can tell, these samples are recordings of actual zombies.

Re: best 'choir' patches?

Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2012 8:41 pm
by cornutt
mama. wrote:Does anyone else find choir patches unsettling? I have 3 of 4 different collections of mellotron choir samples, and an e-mu emax with the "mixed choir" factory disk... from what I can tell, these samples are recordings of actual zombies.
Shh! Jeez, they'll hear you! :?

Re: best 'choir' patches?

Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 1:00 am
by madtheory
Yes! The Melly was often referred to as dead people singing. That was before zombies were pop culture.

Re: best 'choir' patches?

Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 1:09 am
by tekkentool
I love mellotron samples, the AHHHRHGRHRGRHRGRHRGHRGR is perfect.

Re: best 'choir' patches?

Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 5:05 am
by impaler42
The FS1R is capable of some cool choir type sounds using formant shaping.

Re: best 'choir' patches?

Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 1:06 am
by balma
One of the best choirs patches I´ve programmed on the E-mu command station. Simple but effective. This choir leads the whole feeling of this song.


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