To 2013 and Beyond!

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To 2013 and Beyond!

Post by Hybrid88 » Fri Nov 16, 2012 4:29 pm

Ok so, this is just meant to be a fun thread but what kind of things would *you* like to see in 2013, (lets forget re-issues and known future products here)

We have a NAMM coming up, 2013 could either be just another year, or bring us something truly memorable. I guess what I'm asking is, If you could dream up a gizmo from any of the current companies what would it be? :)

For me a hardware Native Instruments synth and a 21c Moog poly (yes I know) but those would be pretty darn cool.

What say you? 8-)

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Re: To 2013 and Beyond!

Post by zoomtheline » Fri Nov 16, 2012 4:38 pm

Always wanted a massive sequencer like a Mobius but 4 times the length and 4 high as in 4 layers. Every note editable in pitch, individual swing and the usual stuff. also with a few poly options per track like the Machinedrum midi options. CV for controlling my SH09 etc and midi for others.

Oh wait, well nearly I guess.

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Re: To 2013 and Beyond!

Post by Psy_Free » Fri Nov 16, 2012 5:44 pm

A modern FM synth from Yamaha based on the SY77 but with a V-Synth style interface (touch screen & knobs), up-to-date effects, modelled analogue multi-mode filters, more algorithms, maybe a sampling option etc.

Basically a 21st century SY77 :)
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Re: To 2013 and Beyond!

Post by phesago » Fri Nov 16, 2012 6:00 pm

zoomtheline wrote:Always wanted a massive sequencer like a Mobius but 4 times the length and 4 high as in 4 layers. Every note editable in pitch, individual swing and the usual stuff. also with a few poly options per track like the Machinedrum midi options. CV for controlling my SH09 etc and midi for others.

Oh wait, well nearly I guess.
This. Like a polyphonic FR Orb with more detail controls. Swing per step. Transpose per step. I personally would like to see 64 steps. Seems cool, I'd buy it lol

Also, a poly phonic synth that had multiple voice control via cv or midi. Like the Xpander, kind of.

On boards EQ on a synth with the ability to route an lfo to modulate it with.

Moogerfooger reverb.

A new sampler that focuses more on modulations. Similar to a asr10 but updated. Knob per function sounds perfect

Anyway, just some initial thoughts

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Re: To 2013 and Beyond!

Post by space6oy » Fri Nov 16, 2012 6:17 pm

something from future retro. i don't have an XS anymore but the XSorries jered talked about haven't happened... maybe a 141414 so i'll be even less interested in the new elektron or a drum machine that'll make me less tempted by a used tempest...

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Post by phesago » Fri Nov 16, 2012 6:29 pm

space6oy wrote:something from future retro. i don't have an XS anymore but the XSorries jered talked about haven't happened... maybe a 141414 so i'll be even less interested in the new elektron or a drum machine that'll make me less tempted by a used tempest...
Agreed. Somethign from FR would be sick. A FR style analog drum machine might make retire the 808.

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Re: To 2013 and Beyond!

Post by Z » Fri Nov 16, 2012 6:59 pm

phesago wrote: A FR style analog drum machine might make retire the 808.
A couple of years ago, he was selling off a bunch of drum synths (I bought a TechStar from him), so I figured he was buying up drum synths to check on their inner workings for a FR analog drum box. Would be great to see such a product.

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Re: To 2013 and Beyond!

Post by Sir Ruff » Fri Nov 16, 2012 7:04 pm

I'm hoping Roland will release an updated Juno-60.
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Re: To 2013 and Beyond!

Post by phesago » Fri Nov 16, 2012 7:16 pm

Z wrote:
phesago wrote: A FR style analog drum machine might make retire the 808.
A couple of years ago, he was selling off a bunch of drum synths (I bought a TechStar from him), so I figured he was buying up drum synths to check on their inner workings for a FR analog drum box. Would be great to see such a product.
That's good info :D

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Re: To 2013 and Beyond!

Post by Hugo76 » Fri Nov 16, 2012 7:33 pm

My hopes are real alternatives to the Korg Kronos from Yamaha and Roland. Also, a Kaoss Pad 4 :)

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Re: To 2013 and Beyond!

Post by Synthacon » Fri Nov 16, 2012 8:31 pm

Something that isn't a rehash of what is already out there.
You always want just one more Synth!

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Re: To 2013 and Beyond!

Post by _seph » Fri Nov 16, 2012 9:11 pm

news on the status of Roger Linn's LinnStrument would be nice...

as would any news from AAS regarding Tassman 5...

as for synths, what I would really like to see is for DSI to explore Dave's (and the rest of the ex-Sequential crew's) Korg legacy: wave sequencing and physical modeling.

it has been more than 15 years since the release of the, VL1, Prophecy and OASYS PCI and neither Yamaha or Korg has put forth a second generation synth (an updated polyphonic VL1 would be great)

so now that DSI has done a good job of exploring the analog side of the Evolver.. how about they swing over to the digital side. I am still disappointed that the Tempest doesn't allow user samples and were they to have allowed wave sequencing, something like a sampling Wavestation (or an ASR-10 I suppose) it would have been perfect, but perhaps the Tempest needs to be as the Tempest is and this is a better place for a new poly synth.

so.. current dream synth is basically a PolyEvolver Keyboard that is more a Prophet VS than Prophet 5, essentially a next generation Wavestation that allows user wavetables/samples with next gen vector control. if it could somehow work in physical modeling, perhaps in the form of convolution (of samples and spaces) that would be great.

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Re: To 2013 and Beyond!

Post by tekkentool » Sat Nov 17, 2012 12:51 am

Psy_Free wrote:A modern FM synth from Yamaha based on the SY77 but with a V-Synth style interface (touch screen & knobs), up-to-date effects, modelled analogue multi-mode filters, more algorithms, maybe a sampling option etc.
So basically FM8 in a box with samples?

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Re: To 2013 and Beyond!

Post by griffin avid » Sat Nov 17, 2012 4:04 am

I think I'm going to break the mold and instead of dreaming about a product, I'm going to dream about a price tag because I just realized I don't want to spend more than $500 USD anymore. I don't.

When I get near the $1,000 dollar mark, it needs to become a back-bone, all-or-nothing-main-sonic character-giving-badass-sunummabytch-type addition to my set up. And no one is making that.

Oh, you might find one more source of synth sounds or maybe a sequencer, but to find something that I can use without the need for anything to chime in or help....

Not since the big ROMplers ruled.

Who's got a polyphonic beast capable of doing whole records?
Once you talk about DAWS and multiple-passes, really a monophonic synth with some routing/modulation is an obvious alternative. So it's back to baby drum machines and grooveboxes.

Really, I'd like the same products I've wanted for the last 4 years.
So here's my list again......

From Native Instruments, a hardware ROMpler version of Maschine that's like a controller version of Kontakt.
From AKAI: oh wait they did it already. The Maschine-MPC thing.....

The two above would probably be expensive...

From KORG; an electribe legacy- full-scale plastic controller to mimic the software for a better ielectribe.
From Roland {Rack units and..} an SP-556 that is a keyboard/drum machine with a better workflow


Figure out what you gotta do to make them around $500...

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My overall fantasy is a brand new sound that I haven't heard before that's musical.
For $500 dollars you get a black box that has a bunch of audio inputs in the back and a few in the front.
The top is all weird controllers; knobs, dials and a touch screen. Inside is all DSP effects. All made for mangling/damaging whatever you pass through it.
It's a standalone filter-type-thingy but so much more. USB for software interfacing, but every function is available from the top of the unit.

If it does a lot more, it can cost more.
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Re: To 2013 and Beyond!

Post by bouzoukijoe1 » Sat Nov 17, 2012 4:09 am

definitely more under-$500 modular units like foogers, eurorack modules, and more controllers for analog synthesis!! keyboards, joysticks, infrared sensors, etc. like the Koma Kommander and the Planar.



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