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Re: DSI announces Prophet 12!

Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 11:57 pm
by sequentialsoftshock
philip wrote:Id like to ask Mr.Smith, if this is such great analog polysynth, best he ever made, why he decided to record it with external FX for this demo??
Don't think it's analog.

Re: DSI announces Prophet 12!

Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 11:58 pm
by Sir Ruff
sequentialsoftshock wrote:Nowhere does it say the oscillators are analog...
They're not; apparently they're not even DCOs, but processer-based. Fine by me as long as they've got more than the usual waveforms in there.

Re: DSI announces Prophet 12!

Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 12:05 am
by sequentialsoftshock
Sir Ruff wrote:
sequentialsoftshock wrote:Nowhere does it say the oscillators are analog...
They're not; apparently they're not even DCOs, but processer-based. Fine by me as long as they've got more than the usual waveforms in there.
Yep. First hint to me wasn't that it has 4 per voice, but "complex" waveforms. Would be sweet if this could essentially be a 12 voice VS. don't have time to watch video. Is there a joystick ?

Re: DSI announces Prophet 12!

Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 12:07 am
by Arddhu
Looks like they've taken cues from Ensoniq's soft-button approach too. Nice.

Re: DSI announces Prophet 12!

Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 12:28 am
by _seph
Arddhu wrote:Looks like they've taken cues from Ensoniq's soft-button approach too. Nice.
yep.. a knobby modern SQ-80 was my impression too, which I think is great as the hybrids were always more interesting than most of the analog polys.. $3000 seems a little steep, but I look forward to seeing more info

Re: DSI announces Prophet 12!

Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 1:06 am
by ronP
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DSI's Kitchen Sink Synth!

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Re: DSI announces Prophet 12!

Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 1:11 am
by lazerface
Sir Ruff wrote:
sequentialsoftshock wrote:Nowhere does it say the oscillators are analog...
They're not; apparently they're not even DCOs, but processer-based. Fine by me as long as they've got more than the usual waveforms in there.
Looks and sounds like 2 Tempest engines to me, 2 ana + 2 digi + sub osc. I assume that's what he meant when he mentioned channeling the evolver engine (digi + ana), why else would they have 4 osc? You wanna do triangle, sawtooth, square wave and pwm at the same time? Nah mate, mix your analog sounds with some harsh digi waves, that's where my Tempest absolutely shines and can only imagine what unison on this beast will sound like :twisted:

Re: DSI announces Prophet 12!

Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 3:01 am
by GuyaGuy
philip wrote:Id like to ask Mr.Smith, if this is such a great analog polysynth, best he ever made, why he decided to record it with an external FX for this demo??
Onboard quad multi-mode delay, son.

Re: DSI announces Prophet 12!

Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 3:05 am
by Stab Frenzy
lazerface wrote:
Sir Ruff wrote:
sequentialsoftshock wrote:Nowhere does it say the oscillators are analog...
They're not; apparently they're not even DCOs, but processer-based. Fine by me as long as they've got more than the usual waveforms in there.
Looks and sounds like 2 Tempest engines to me, 2 ana + 2 digi + sub osc. I assume that's what he meant when he mentioned channeling the evolver engine (digi + ana), why else would they have 4 osc? You wanna do triangle, sawtooth, square wave and pwm at the same time? Nah mate, mix your analog sounds with some harsh digi waves, that's where my Tempest absolutely shines and can only imagine what unison on this beast will sound like :twisted:
Yep, it's two Tempests minus the sequencer and plus a keyboard. This is what Pym was hinting about months ago.

Sounds cool to me, a one voice version of it would interest me perhaps seeing as my MEK is up for sale at the moment.

Also loving all the people who were saying 'wow, sounds so analogue' followed closely by the 'it's not even DCOs, it's all DSP' brigade. :lol:

Re: DSI announces Prophet 12!

Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 4:11 am
by Sir Ruff
Stab Frenzy wrote:Also loving all the people who were saying 'wow, sounds so analogue' followed closely by the 'it's not even DCOs, it's all DSP' brigade. :lol:
I said those exact two statements--they're not mutually exclusive.

Re: DSI announces Prophet 12!

Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 4:13 am
by masstronaut
GuyaGuy wrote:
philip wrote:Id like to ask Mr.Smith, if this is such a great analog polysynth, best he ever made, why he decided to record it with an external FX for this demo??
Onboard quad multi-mode delay, son.
Multi-tap delay, per voice, no less. And it sounds like they do proper smoove interpolation.

Re: DSI announces Prophet 12!

Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 4:38 am
by b3groover
According to a friend who spoke with the DSI guys at the booth today:
The oscillators are virtual, produced by a total of six SHARC chips. Output is then converted to analog to go to filters and VCAs. The chips also handle effects.
I don't care. It still sounds amazing.

Re: DSI announces Prophet 12!

Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 4:57 am
by Stab Frenzy
Sir Ruff wrote:
Stab Frenzy wrote:Also loving all the people who were saying 'wow, sounds so analogue' followed closely by the 'it's not even DCOs, it's all DSP' brigade. :lol:
I said those exact two statements--they're not mutually exclusive.
True. I guess I'm just pretty amused by people already starting to argue about things before they've even seen a full spec list.
b3groover wrote:According to a friend who spoke with the DSI guys at the booth today:
The oscillators are virtual, produced by a total of six SHARC chips. Output is then converted to analog to go to filters and VCAs. The chips also handle effects.
I don't care. It still sounds amazing.
Very nice!

Re: DSI announces Prophet 12!

Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 6:35 am
by Ashe37
If the voices are 2 ana + 2 digital, I can see $3k. IF they are DSP, i will reserve judgement.

Re: DSI announces Prophet 12!

Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 6:50 am
by _seph
b3groover wrote:According to a friend who spoke with the DSI guys at the booth today:
The oscillators are virtual, produced by a total of six SHARC chips. Output is then converted to analog to go to filters and VCAs. The chips also handle effects.
I don't care. It still sounds amazing.
perfect.

analog can be great and seeing a new Music Easel makes me happy.

but, the Prophet 08 is already a good analog poly synth and the PolyEvolver is a great hybrid.

were this just two Tempests together (minus the sequencer), I don't know why anyone wouldn't rather just buy a PEK and a PE rack (aside from it being discontinued). That would be 8 voices and far better synthesis for about the same price.

I do hope this is something different and a modern SQ-80 type synth (digital oscillators running through analog and plenty of modulation) would be nice.