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Re: DSI announces Prophet 12!

Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 2:08 am
by Ashe37
Sorry gonna disagree with Dave on that... if the resolution for the CCs was higher than 7-bit then the instrument wouldn't *need* to smooth it.

Re: DSI announces Prophet 12!

Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 4:53 am
by Allthesound
It was not only a brave but also briliant choice on Dave's part to go in this direction. like he explains in his video he was after a new sound that simply could not be achived with analog dco's.

Only better quaility direct demos will tell more of the story and let us see how the digital side is implemented. Are the Ocs's analog modeled or are they sampled? What is the level of aliasing, is there any? I would like to hear some more traditional sounds and raw wave stuff and of course the new sonic terriotry it can cover and explore.

To me Dave's instruments have been two things, evolutionary and revolutionary. The P12 from what i can see so far follows that tradition. it seems to be the beast to beat.
Bitexion wrote:In this NAMM video Dave Smith himself talks us through the synth and some demos. Unison sounds like fun on this beast. We have 12 voices, and 5 oscillators in each voice. 60 oscillator unison.


Re: DSI announces Prophet 12!

Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 4:59 am
by sequentialsoftshock
I doubt the oscillators are samples. I imagine the classic waveforms at the least are modeled. I imagine there are samples of the VS...

Re: DSI announces Prophet 12!

Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 5:16 am
by Dr. Phibes
Bitexion wrote:In this NAMM video Dave Smith himself talks us through the synth and some demos. Unison sounds like fun on this beast. We have 12 voices, and 5 oscillators in each voice. 60 oscillator unison.

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Decent vid; anything with a "decimate" knob gets my approval. I was waiting to see Mr.Doty fiddling around with the Moog modular in the background, but maybe him and Dave Smith would be too much for single video, too much.

P.S. "If you're hearing stepping it's not a good design" - don't get too cocky Dave :roll:

Re: DSI announces Prophet 12!

Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 6:49 am
by Stab Frenzy
Allthesound wrote:Are the Ocs's analog modeled or are they sampled?
Modeled.
What is the level of aliasing, is there any?
He described them as "low-aliasing oscillators" so take that however you will. I doubt they will alias unless you want them to, the guy knows what he's doing just a little bit. ;)

Re: DSI announces Prophet 12!

Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 2:52 pm
by Bitexion
The "analog waveforms" have to be modelled, or you can't do things like hard sync and PWM on them.

Re: DSI announces Prophet 12!

Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 2:59 pm
by Ashe37
Bitexion wrote:The "analog waveforms" have to be modelled, or you can't do things like hard sync and PWM on them.
An ESQ has sync, and yet is sample based...

Re: DSI announces Prophet 12!

Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 3:14 pm
by Allthesound
One thing i'm a little confused by is Carson Day in two seperate video's i have watched makes it a point to say that the sub osc is for osc 1 (30 secs in the video linked here), yet Dave says its 5 osc (including sub osc) per voice for a stacked unison of 60 osc's.


Re: DSI announces Prophet 12!

Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 6:10 pm
by Bitexion
Not sure what they mean by 5x12=60 in unison either. Unless he counts the sub oscillator as 1.

Re: DSI announces Prophet 12!

Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 6:14 pm
by jaypodesta
Think that's what he (Smith) said in the sonic state video I saw

Re: DSI announces Prophet 12!

Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 6:22 pm
by Bitexion
It's a massive sound. My Andromeda has 2 vco pr voice and 16 voices. That's 32 oscillators in unison mode, it's pretty scary. Specially when you start spreading them out.

Re: DSI announces Prophet 12!

Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 6:35 pm
by garranimal
I really like what I'm hearing in the demos. This is one of the first Dave Smith synths to really grab my attention. For many reasons I cannot get any new expensive monster poly's. If something else in my setup were to bite the dust this would be a strong contender.

Re: DSI announces Prophet 12!

Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 6:45 pm
by Bitexion
Yeah, but this one will be expensive too..he mentioned 3000 dollars at the end.

Way cheaper than the big polys were back in the 80s though..an Oberheim OB-8 was like $7000

Re: DSI announces Prophet 12!

Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 6:54 pm
by Ned Bouhalassa
I find this synth so much more exciting than the other (same old) new synths at NAMM.

Re: DSI announces Prophet 12!

Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 7:15 pm
by winnebago
I must say I dont really like the look of it (apart from the backlit 12) but it sounds amazing from the demos Ive heard so far.