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Have Arturia kinda missed their chance with the Minibrute?

Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 2:20 am
by Alex E
-Now that Korg's announced the MS20 Mini?

I've been thinking about this for a few days. Minibrute production finally seemed to be in full swing at the very end of last year, but now they have some very serious competition coming up. I feel like everyone's focusing on the MS20 now, and people got kind of tired of waiting for the Minibrute. Thoughts?

Re: Has Arturia kinda missed their chance with the Minibrute

Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 2:26 am
by GuyaGuy
I think Korg missed their chance when they stopped making the MS-20 in 1983. Just think of the THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS they could have been making selling those between then and now. But no, people had to buy DX-7s and MiniBrutes to tide them over.

Re: Has Arturia kinda missed their chance with the Minibrute

Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 2:28 am
by Bitexion
I think <insert manufacturer> missed their chance when they stopped making the <insert vintage synth> in 198x. Just think of the THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS they could have been making selling those between then and now. But no, people had to buy DX-7s and MiniBrutes to tide them over.

Re: Have Arturia kinda missed their chance with the Minibrut

Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 3:00 am
by DLovas
GuyaGuy wrote:I think Korg missed their chance when they stopped making the MS-20 in 1983. Just think of the THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS they could have been making selling those between then and now. But no, people had to buy DX-7s and MiniBrutes to tide them over.
I do agree with this. While one would argue that they were successful in aiming their products towards a more beginner type audience / tweakers (Kaossilators - MicroKorg), I think in the long run they should have stuck with full on workhorse synths like the MS-20. I'm at least glad to see them returning to the market with synths like the King Korg.

As for the OP's claim, I also agree that the MiniBrute wasn't exactly advertised as well as it could have been, and quite honestly the vibe I got was that it was a pretty rushed synth. I could be totally wrong as I've heard many good things about it - I'm just saying what I felt based purely from their advertising.

Re: Have Arturia kinda missed their chance with the Minibrut

Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 3:02 am
by volumetrik
both synths will be selling just as good its not like the MiniBrute is $2000

Re: Have Arturia kinda missed their chance with the Minibrut

Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 3:18 am
by sequentialsoftshock
This is a pretty dumb thread though...

Re: Have Arturia kinda missed their chance with the Minibrut

Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 3:30 am
by Em Pe Ge
Perhaps.

Re: Have Arturia kinda missed their chance with the Minibrut

Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 3:46 am
by Walter Ego
Competition in this small arena is good for people like me, because it means I can begin to afford quality instruments that have the sounds I really love. It's also good for the industry, because it will encourage innovation. Arturia didn't miss their chance--they made a bold friggin move with a very well designed instrument that made more waves (so to speak) than they anticipated. I still applaud them for the move, and I think the synth world is better off for now having two very high quality, low cost analog monosynths to choose from. These are a fraction of the price they would have been thirty five years ago. It's a great time to be into analog synths.

Re: Have Arturia kinda missed their chance with the Minibrut

Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 3:59 am
by bouzoukijoe1
on the flip side, Korg still has a chance to completely "miss the opportunity on the MS-20 Mini." :lol: it's not out yet and it's not too late to mess up on supply and production. they can still drop the ball. all it takes is a big mistake or a marketing push by another company and even the MS-20 can be completely overshadowed.

any number of companies have the ability to push even the MS-20 completely off the road in the next few months. Moog, Elektron, Nord, Roland, heck even Buchla (although it is highly unlikely).

depending on the quality of the MS-20 and how it is received by the public (as soon as they get their hands on it), it may not be a sure thing. you never know.

some other ideas that could throw off Korg:

1. Arturia to follow up with a suite of accessories to build around a complete "Minibrute system" (and ramp up production and re-marketing of the Minibrute as "better" than the MS-20), thereby stealing potential MS-20 buyers.

2. Nord to venture into hardware modular collaboration (better than MS-20 semi-modular).

3. Roland, Yamaha, or Moog to venture into eurorack (also better than MS-20 semi-modular).

4. Roland to release a single Jupiter 8 voice similar to Dark Energy or 808 series eurorack (the only thing more earth shaking than a new MS-20 is a new Jup-8 or 808).

5. Access Virus to venture into new, innovative controllers that can leverage the Virus TI series (backwards compatible).

6. Ableton Live to collaborate with a hardware company on a new, affordable product in the price range of $500 and under.

Re: Have Arturia kinda missed their chance with the Minibrut

Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 4:08 am
by volumetrik
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Re: Have Arturia kinda missed their chance with the Minibrut

Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 4:28 am
by Stab Frenzy
sequentialsoftshock wrote:This is a pretty dumb thread though...

Re: Have Arturia kinda missed their chance with the Minibrut

Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 6:26 am
by Hybrid88
Alex E wrote:Have Arturia kinda missed their chance with the Minibrute?
No. They're both completely different sounding beasts, each to their own I doubt it will make that much difference.

There will always be people who buy things they think they need but don't, it's called America - F yeah! 8-)

Re: Have Arturia kinda missed their chance with the Minibrut

Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 6:27 am
by Jabberwalky
bouzoukijoe1 wrote: 1. Arturia to follow up with a suite of accessories to build around a complete "Minibrute system" (and ramp up production and re-marketing of the Minibrute as "better" than the MS-20), thereby stealing potential MS-20 buyers.
Thread is odd, and misguided...but I do like where you're going with this. It'd be sort of a Roland System 100 style. That would be sick.

Re: Have Arturia kinda missed their chance with the Minibrut

Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 1:37 pm
by redchapterjubilee
I figure it this way. With the $1000 you could have spent last year on an MS-10 you can now (with discounts) buy a MiniBrute and an MS-20 Mini and have two completely different flavors of analog. To think there can only be one $500 analog at a time is missing the point.

Re: Have Arturia kinda missed their chance with the Minibrut

Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 2:30 pm
by Sir Nose