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Post by Tiger Jackson » Sat Feb 09, 2013 6:54 am

swing songs?

This or example

I think i remember seeing that roland 808's were used when new jack swing songs were coming up. Is that where it came from?

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Re: What's the origin of that brassy hit sound, from new jac

Post by tekkentool » Sat Feb 09, 2013 8:00 am

Do you mean the orchestral hit? Literally just google that and you'll be able to find millions to use. Also those drums don't sound at all like an 808.

I think you're confused.

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Re: What's the origin of that brassy hit sound, from new jac

Post by tekkentool » Sat Feb 09, 2013 9:11 am

Okay you got me thinking about New Jack Swing again so I made this :lol:



What element of the productions were you curious about again?

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Re: What's the origin of that brassy hit sound, from new jac

Post by Alex E » Sat Feb 09, 2013 9:27 am

Hey Steph I thought I was the NJS expert around here. :D

Anyway the orchestral stab probably comes from an Akai sampler, so that makes it very tricky to find an exact source.

Lots of FM everything was popular in New Jack Swing as well. I Want Her is a perfect example of that. Something like a DX100 probably sourced many of the other sounds you're hearing in the song.
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Post by Computer Controlled » Sat Feb 09, 2013 12:08 pm

T. Reilly used i believe 8 TX81Zs in a lot of his NJS productions.
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Post by Computer Controlled » Sat Feb 09, 2013 12:10 pm

Listening to that vid, the orch hit sounds like the one that was in the Fairlight. Orch5 i think it was called? Also, the Kawai XD-5 was used quite a bit in this style as well.
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Post by Bitexion » Sat Feb 09, 2013 3:14 pm

Strange how Kawaii has a model called XD-5, and Korg has a model called X5-D :)

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Re: What's the origin of that brassy hit sound, from new jac

Post by Z » Sat Feb 09, 2013 3:49 pm

Tiger Jackson wrote:I think i remember seeing that roland 808's were used when new jack swing songs were coming up. Is that where it came from?
The TR-808 does not have a swing or shuffle function. However, you have make a "hard swing" by programming in triplet mode. The TR-909 and Linn 9000 are 2 popular machines with swing.

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Re: What's the origin of that brassy hit sound, from new jac

Post by tekkentool » Sat Feb 09, 2013 3:58 pm

808 samples are used all the time in NJS. Just not the 808 itself. For obvious reasons.

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Re: What's the origin of that brassy hit sound, from new jac

Post by Tiger Jackson » Sun Feb 10, 2013 3:24 am

tekkentool wrote:Okay you got me thinking about New Jack Swing again so I made this :lol:



What element of the productions were you curious about again?
That hit sound you just used lol, i guess it's called the orchestral hit as you say.

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Re: What's the origin of that brassy hit sound, from new jac

Post by Tiger Jackson » Sun Feb 10, 2013 7:21 am

Thanks but i'm wondering where it ever came from originally. And what made it so popular to use back in those days.

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Re: What's the origin of that brassy hit sound, from new jac

Post by tekkentool » Sun Feb 10, 2013 8:17 am

I think it was a fairlight stock sample that started the ball rolling on the worst ageing sound of all time.

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Post by Bitexion » Sun Feb 10, 2013 11:26 am

I think what made that "orch crash" sound so popular was that it was totally unlike the usual analog synth effects. It was something new. Samples!

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Re: What's the origin of that brassy hit sound, from new jac

Post by GuyaGuy » Sun Feb 10, 2013 7:29 pm

NJS got it from old school hip hop


and early 80s electronic production.




Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis are credited with creating the NJS sound on JJ's CONTROL, drawing from hip hop production, R&B and funk.

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