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Re: Sonic State King Korg review

Posted: Sat Mar 23, 2013 7:09 am
by Stab Frenzy
plikestechno wrote:What's different? Other than a tube? Wooo. You tell me. Have you ever sat at and programmed a Microkorg or MS2000? Some of the best VAs and synths of all time. I'm fine with the sound but it's nothing really new.
I personally like the sound of the uK and MS2k but the filter on those sounds nothing like an analogue filter and I think the King Korg gets much much closer. Also the aliasing in the top end on the older Korgs makes it useless when it comes to high, open, bright sounds, something that anyone who'd sat and programmed one would know all about. ;)

Re: Sonic State King Korg review

Posted: Sat Mar 23, 2013 7:31 am
by Kenneth
tekkentool wrote:This will be good for my rihanna cover band.
Dude, can I be in your band if I get a Roland Jupiter 80k and a Fantom GX8trillion?

Also, +10000

Re: Sonic State King Korg review

Posted: Sat Mar 23, 2013 9:40 am
by plikestechno
Stab Frenzy wrote:
plikestechno wrote:What's different? Other than a tube? Wooo. You tell me. Have you ever sat at and programmed a Microkorg or MS2000? Some of the best VAs and synths of all time. I'm fine with the sound but it's nothing really new.
I personally like the sound of the uK and MS2k but the filter on those sounds nothing like an analogue filter and I think the King Korg gets much much closer. Also the aliasing in the top end on the older Korgs makes it useless when it comes to high, open, bright sounds, something that anyone who'd sat and programmed one would know all about. ;)
Perhaps my initial reaction and dislike had some hyperbole and bs in it but it sounds va korg to me all the way and the microkorg instantly came to mind. For me its close enough to not have any interest in buying one of these. That said high, flutey leads are not what i use a microkorg for and the microkorg sounds plenty va for me.

Anyhoo sounds way more v than a to me even the filters and not interested.

Re: Sonic State King Korg review

Posted: Sat Mar 23, 2013 1:41 pm
by meatballfulton
A step forward and a step back from the Radias.

Only 8 steps for the arpeggiator, loss of all the sequencers, no AT, no verb and delay at the same time...balanced somewhat by the larger filter selection though the loss of the comb filter and filter morphing is unfortunate.

The tube is last in the signal chain where it does much less good than if it was pre-filter (and ditch that red light because the tube isn't glowing enuff).

As noted by some, the controls are sort of backwards unless you're a left-handed player.

I wish wall warts were banned on synths meant for stage use.

Sounded nice but personally not interested, it should sell well.

Re: Sonic State King Korg review

Posted: Sat Mar 23, 2013 2:33 pm
by tekkentool
Kenneth wrote:
tekkentool wrote:This will be good for my rihanna cover band.
Dude, can I be in your band if I get a Roland Jupiter 80k and a Fantom GX8trillion?
Yeah dude those moogs are hella fat.
meatballfulton wrote: As noted by some, the controls are sort of backwards unless you're a left-handed player.
That's for your hektik as f**k hand crossover when tweaking the cutoff filter. Show off that forearm definition cuz.

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(as a serious aside note, No VST editor and it even has a f**k USB cable on it. hurrrrr)

Re: Sonic State King Korg review

Posted: Sat Mar 23, 2013 3:10 pm
by vinyl_junkie
tekkentool wrote:This will be good for my rihanna cover band.
Gash isn't it

Re: Sonic State King Korg review

Posted: Sat Mar 23, 2013 5:29 pm
by madmarkmagee
Kenneth wrote:
tekkentool wrote:This will be good for my rihanna cover band.
Dude, can I be in your band if I get a Roland Jupiter 80k and a Fantom GX8trillion?

Also, +10000


Does this annoy all the hipsters out there?

King korg= My god, its mainstream, its for keyboardist, it sounds poppy... lets bag it out... :lol:

Re: Sonic State King Korg review

Posted: Sun Mar 24, 2013 3:08 am
by tekkentool
madmarkmagee wrote: Does this annoy all the hipsters out there?
Yes but only because that person making that video completely fails at playing in time whatsoever.

I actually kinda like Ke$ha. :thumbright: (I think she's a lot sharper than people realize, there's a reason she doesn't put out music like this anymore. )

Re: Sonic State King Korg review

Posted: Sun Mar 24, 2013 7:08 am
by severen
CV controler with Microkorg?
didn't it has a Z1 feature?

Re: Sonic State King Korg review

Posted: Sun Mar 24, 2013 7:19 am
by suitandtieguy
i spent a half-hour programming it at 'nam and i think there are definitely some things about it which could be better but on the whole i was rather excited about it as it will very easily replace my JP-8000 which is all i need this thing to do.

i'm looking forward to getting it.

Re: Sonic State King Korg review

Posted: Sun Mar 24, 2013 10:47 am
by Hybrid88
suitandtieguy wrote:i spent a half-hour programming it at 'nam and i think there are definitely some things about it which could be better but on the whole i was rather excited about it as it will very easily replace my JP-8000 which is all i need this thing to do.

i'm looking forward to getting it.
Yeah I'm thinking the same cause the JP is great but it doesn't exactly last with the crappy sliders, knobs and tact switches.

Was wondering did you think the character was a nice as the JP? The JP is known for it's great sound and playable quality, but I see the Korg stuff as much more polished and hi-fi.

Gotta say the "glowing tube" is a freaking joke :lol:

Re: Sonic State King Korg review

Posted: Sun Mar 24, 2013 3:25 pm
by Hybrid88
...Just watched the vid, gotta say I'm quite impressed. They did a good job, nice to see they cut down on the cheese and made the demo more relevant to modern stuff too (could have done without the Jump patch demo tho which to be honest sounded nothing like the original sound anyway).

Does sound very smooth and hi-fi, pads and leads sound phenomenal but doesn't sound quite get there with the deep bass potential from what I can hear, but that's what we have analogs for right? :geek:

And those awkward abbreviations for the advanced editing bring back nightmares from the past, and I aint never going back there haha. :lol:

Good price and a nice board though I gotta say 8-)

Re: Sonic State King Korg review

Posted: Sun Mar 24, 2013 3:55 pm
by Walter Ego
Stab Frenzy wrote:
plikestechno wrote:What's different? Other than a tube? Wooo. You tell me. Have you ever sat at and programmed a Microkorg or MS2000? Some of the best VAs and synths of all time. I'm fine with the sound but it's nothing really new.
I personally like the sound of the uK and MS2k but the filter on those sounds nothing like an analogue filter and I think the King Korg gets much much closer. Also the aliasing in the top end on the older Korgs makes it useless when it comes to high, open, bright sounds, something that anyone who'd sat and programmed one would know all about. ;)
Yes, I agree. I've been spending a lot of time with my MK over the past two weeks and I like the sound quite a bit, but it definitely has its limits. The filter really doesn't go where I wish it would, and it has a sort of dull and granular quality to it. To my ears, it does edgy basses the best (within reason), but it still doesn't have that analog knife edge. Just from the demo of the KingKORG, it seems much brighter, more alive and edgier than the MK/MS2K is capable of. I don't think I would ever describe the MK as "rich" or "creamy" or "bright" but the KK seems to be capable of some rich textures without that grainy quality.

I don't know if I can handle the ridiculous name, though...I can't think of a more boneheaded name in recent synth history...

Here's a question though...can it really hold its own against VAs from Access, Clavia Nord, Novation or higher end VSTs? It does seem performance-oriented, but would it really be worth it to drop $1300 on one when I could have a Virus incarnation for $400-1000 or an Ultranova for $700?

Re: Sonic State King Korg review

Posted: Sun Mar 24, 2013 4:02 pm
by Synthacon
I would say its better at the analogue sound than the Virus, but that's my opinion. The Nord is rather limited in terms of programming. The Novation just sounds nasty, they always have.

I think the KK is a winner, sod the name, it seems to do what it set out to do. Team it with an MS20 Mini and a DAW and what else would you need?

Re: Sonic State King Korg review

Posted: Sun Mar 24, 2013 5:42 pm
by Walter Ego
Synthacon wrote:Team it with an MS20 Mini and a DAW and what else would you need?
An 808?