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Korg SuperDelta

Post by oryjen » Sat Jun 22, 2013 12:27 am

Hi there!
I just finished this:
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Sounds like this:


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Re: Korg SuperDelta

Post by Alex E » Sat Jun 22, 2013 12:50 am

Holy s**t! That's awesome! :D
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Re: Korg SuperDelta

Post by walkathon » Sat Jun 22, 2013 1:36 am

oh yeah!

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Re: Korg SuperDelta

Post by Rooftree » Sat Jun 22, 2013 3:15 am

Reminds me of the Juno 2012.
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Re: Korg SuperDelta

Post by analoglsd » Sat Jun 22, 2013 4:12 am

Great job with the wood case.

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Re: Korg SuperDelta

Post by oryjen » Sat Jun 22, 2013 8:39 am

Reminds me of the Juno 2012.
Er.... 'scuze me sir, this doesn't sound like 2 crappy Juno106, but like 2 wonderfull Deltas! :?
That famous (and unique) filter, made of 2 MS20 filter stages resulting in an incredible 24dB MS20 sounding synthesizer, instantly takes the wallpaper off! It directly drills through your soul just by holding one single note!
It's just something worthy, instead of a double - overpainted b***h.
By the way, will someone one day tell me what was the stuff, making a synth that doubles that famous VCF/VCA failure risk?

Well, let's be serious now and talk about musical instruments:
Did anyone else notice that trick on a Delta, when hitting the keys VERY briefly, with a long release time?
It looks like turning that "poor dividers machine" into a truly polyphonic synth! Any new note doesn't mute the previous ones, like on ordinary strings-machines...
I suppose this is bound to the time for C1-C49 capacitors to rearm when a trig is detected on the keyboard. This time is not really instantaneous. When you hit a key very quickly, the previously discharged charged capacitors don't have time enough to get completely re-charged. So the correspondant notes are not completely muted, and stay as long as the capacitors are not "full". That means that you can very briefly hit several notes along, that will all be hearable less and less until enough hits have completely recharged the capacitors.
... I suppose this is the way it works, but my electronic knowledge is not tough enough to be absolutely sure of that...
Can anyone confirm, or propose another version?

Anyway, this provides unexpected expressive possibilities on a synth of that class! That's so good!
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Re: Korg SuperDelta

Post by Hugo76 » Sat Jun 22, 2013 11:00 am

Awesome job, sir!

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Re: Korg SuperDelta

Post by monolith » Sat Jun 22, 2013 11:53 am

Absolutely amazing! I got a Delta on New Year's Eve and it's become one of my favourite synths, perfect for weird lofi sounds.

Does yours have a delay before the pitch vibrato kicks in?

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Re: Korg SuperDelta

Post by Bitexion » Sat Jun 22, 2013 12:10 pm

*Throws money in oryjen's general direction*

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Re: Korg SuperDelta

Post by oryjen » Sat Jun 22, 2013 1:59 pm

Does yours have a delay before the pitch vibrato kicks in?
Sure it has, like every Delta!
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Re: Korg SuperDelta

Post by oryjen » Sun Jun 23, 2013 9:24 pm

Well. The wooden case is not totally finished yet: I'll darken it with 3 or 4 more layers of "golden oak" varnish. The contrast looks somewhat cheesy like this... I finished the instrument late in the night, to take it to an analog synths meeting just next morning!
I'll add a pot for the vibrato delay, some switches for linked/separate rear jacks, a flip/flop circuit to alternatively send the trigger signal to Delta1 or Delta2 on each Kbd trig, sothat I could have real duophony, exactly like on my good old 800DV (Maxikorg), and 1 attenuator pot for each Generator Harmonic, driven by the LFO, to have something like a "waveform animator" function.
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Re: Korg SuperDelta

Post by Walter Ego » Mon Jun 24, 2013 5:30 am

That last 2-3 mins sounded right out of a Clockwork Orange. Impressive!!
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Re: Korg SuperDelta

Post by ppg_wavecomputer » Mon Jun 24, 2013 1:10 pm

The wooden bits look downright ugly, I´m sorry to say so as I´m sure that a lot of work must have gone into them. Maybe they´ll look better once they´re varnished.

I for one don´t quite get why all the hassle was taken for a Delta. To me, it has always been one of the most horrible-sounding boxes Korg has ever come up with.

Each to his own, I guess.

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Re: Korg SuperDelta

Post by Bitexion » Mon Jun 24, 2013 1:30 pm

Up next, Roland Jupiter-16 please

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Re: Korg SuperDelta

Post by oryjen » Mon Jun 24, 2013 2:25 pm

To me, it has always been one of the most horrible-sounding boxes Korg has ever come up with.
Did you ever try one? There's just a double MS20 MkII filter on that one, and I must say it actually sounds very close to my MS20.
Did you notice you may sculpt a juicy sawtooth by adjusting the 4 harmonics half the volume each other?
So where's the difference?
Or perhaps you find the MS20 sounds bad too (PPG is not my cup of tea, indeed)?

But, if I can explain the idea: I had a Delta for years, and bought a Lambda that needed to have one S10430 divider/keyer replaced.
So I posted here and there adverts to find an out of order Lambda or a Delta for spare.
A guy proposed his old Delta for 50€, and when I recieved it, it looked much too nice to be cut into pieces...
I repaired it (there were 3 failures) and then, since I LOVED my Delta but didn't see the interest to own 2 of them, and since I'd allways found the Synth sound was a little bit too straight compared to the strings section too, I decided to try and put them both into one case, like my Maxikorg and my CS15 I love so much too.

It results (for me) in an excellent polysynth with very complex synthesis ability, and simply the best string machine I ever tried, providing round, deep and strong string sounds, nice and exact opposite of that horrible sugary Solina and all Italian substitutes I hate.
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