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Re: New analog Arturia synth?

Posted: Sat Oct 19, 2013 4:25 pm
by commodorejohn
Cripes, I hope it's not VA...how backwards would that be?

Re: New analog Arturia synth?

Posted: Sat Oct 19, 2013 5:44 pm
by bluntedcircuit
I really can't see anyone doing a VA with no patch memory, not to mention the cost of developing something new from scratch versus making something new with surplus parts from something they already make - I doubt it's a VA

Re: New analog Arturia synth?

Posted: Sat Oct 19, 2013 5:48 pm
by Psy_Free
bluntedcircuit wrote:I really can't see anyone doing a VA with no patch memory, not to mention the cost of developing something new from scratch versus making something new with surplus parts from something they already make - I doubt it's a VA
Using TAE for the oscillator would suggest otherwise.

Re: New analog Arturia synth?

Posted: Sat Oct 19, 2013 5:50 pm
by Broadwave
Microbrute - VA, TAE Synthesis, mini keyboard (why this predilection for small keyboards?)

Apparently $299.00

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I guess some people will go crazy for it... I'll pass.

Re: New analog Arturia synth?

Posted: Sat Oct 19, 2013 5:53 pm
by Hugo76
Strange... on the unit itself, the text reads "MicroBrute Analog Synthesizer", but the description talks of analoge emulation.

Re: New analog Arturia synth?

Posted: Sat Oct 19, 2013 5:55 pm
by Hybrid88
It's not a VA.

This is a stripped down Minibrute with mini keys and a nice price ;)

Re: New analog Arturia synth?

Posted: Sat Oct 19, 2013 6:00 pm
by Hugo76
Some text from the link above:
Better reproduction of analog oscillators
TAE® recreates the characteristics of analog oscillators in amazing detail. The transparency and clarity of our analog synthesizer emulations give the musician a freedom to be inspired by classic sounds or explore new textures with the expectation that previous limitations of digital oscillators will not interrupt the creative flow.


Better reproduction of analog filters
Filters are a major element in substractive sound synthesis. It is important to reproduce the exact characteristics of analog filters in the digital domain, as well as the individual characteristics of classics instruments that give them each their characteristic sound.

Implementation of soft clipping
Soft clipping can give the sound more punch and deeper basses, together with limiting the amplitude of the sound. It is another important point that gives analog synthesis its sound and "attitude".

TAE® oscillators are very similar to their analog counterparts for several important reasons.

One of the main reasons is that they are "free", i.e. they are not sampled or wavetable based - or generated from a 0-point when a note is played. Each waveform generated dynamically, allowing the waveform to be in constant adaptation regarding sampling "cutting" and quantization, avoiding one of the major "tell-tale" signs of digital waveform generation and provides a certain level of "liveness" found in the classic analog synthesizers of the past.

Standard digital synthesizers produce aliasing in high frequencies, and also when using Pulse Width Modulation or Frequency Modulation. TAE® allows the production of oscillators that are totally aliasing-free in all contexts (PWM, FM,…), at no extra CPU cost.

Re: New analog Arturia synth?

Posted: Sat Oct 19, 2013 6:20 pm
by Hugo76
Some more:
Also, all of our oscillators are highly optimized for the particular working frequency. That means that you can play with an instrument exactly as if you played a real analog synthesizer. Again, the waveforms are not presampled and or regenerated with digital perfection, allowing each note to have a life of its own.

In addition, original analog oscillators were unstable. Actually, their wave shape was always slightly different from one period to another. It is also true that due to analog hardware sensitivity, new period trigger times varied with the temperature and other environmental conditions.

TAE® allows the simulation of the oscillator's instability, helping to create warmer and fatter sound.

Original analog oscillators used condensers' unloading to produce common wave shapes (saw tooth, triangle, square). This means that wave forms were slightly curved or distorted in other ways that are considered highly desirable in a musical context. TAE® allows the reproduction of condenser's unload in order to give you the original analog sound.

Because TAE® oscillators are "free" and "alive", when you play a simple chords with raw oscillators, you don't have a digital impression of "fog" or a "blocked" sound, but you have a pleasant feeling of transparency and clarity.

PWM
With TAE®, you can even produce complex PWM sounds with unprecedented quality and, of course, free of any aliasing. It is true for all the our TAE® waveforms (square, triangle, saw…). This produces sounds which are unique on the market, because PWM is very difficult to achieve on certain waveforms like triangle or saw/ramp. We bring you new levels of reality in a virtual analog synthesizer, so that you can achieve new levels of creativity in your music.

Re: New analog Arturia synth?

Posted: Sat Oct 19, 2013 8:02 pm
by bluntedcircuit
Ha that link with the tae s**t also lists the price as ZERO and clearly shows a picture of a vst ui.
That link is garbage

Re: New analog Arturia synth?

Posted: Sat Oct 19, 2013 8:28 pm
by Joshy
I don't see the appeal in micro keys, or stripped down version of a MiniBrute. Definitely pass.

Re: New analog Arturia synth?

Posted: Sat Oct 19, 2013 8:35 pm
by Blue Monster 65

Re: New analog Arturia synth?

Posted: Sat Oct 19, 2013 9:07 pm
by ColorForm2113
Looks like the sub osc also does a fifth if I'm reading that right

Re: New analog Arturia synth?

Posted: Sun Oct 20, 2013 12:44 am
by Stab Frenzy
Lol at people who think its VA. :lol:

Looks cool, I like the direction they're heading with the patch points on the top rather than the back. Will be interested when they make a two osc semi-modular version, already have a minibrute.

Re: New analog Arturia synth?

Posted: Sun Oct 20, 2013 12:54 am
by ColorForm2113
Stab Frenzy wrote:Lol at people who think its VA. :lol:

Looks cool, I like the direction they're heading with the patch points on the top rather than the back. Will be interested when they make a two osc semi-modular version, already have a minibrute.
Yeah more companies need to put cv jacks front and center (or to the right in this case) where you can easily access them (moog, I'm looking at you)

Re: New analog Arturia synth?

Posted: Sun Oct 20, 2013 1:01 am
by bluntedcircuit
Ha the price is at that perfect point that I can probably drop enough hints that my gf might get it for xmas :D