And yet he claims this is the coolest thing you can do with a Moog. And people wonder why some of us doubt his relevance to a Moog video.
I return to the response my friend and I both had to Money Mark and the Moog video in general -

Money Mark sucks....Sweep wrote:So the consensus is that this Money Mark guy made noises into a cheap mic and he could have used any mic and any input, pretty much.
And yet he claims this is the coolest thing you can do with a Moog. And people wonder why some of us doubt his relevance to a Moog video.
I return to the response my friend and I both had to Money Mark and the Moog video in general -
That may be so, but that doesn't necessarily make it good electronic music.shaft9000 wrote:hip-hop IS electronic music. how someone could fail to notice is...
I don't think you've understood the issue here. It isn't about `hating'. I don't think any of us hate Money Mark. Personally I don't - I quite honestly couldn't give a toss about him. What this is about is the very poor quality of a video that's supposed to be about Moog. Money Mark can peddle his rubbish as much as he likes, but making silly noises and claiming they're the coolest thing you can do with a Moog is a complete waste of people's time and money. As I said before, my Moog playing friend and I just laughed at him and at much of the video as a whole. We didn't hate. We just recognised rubbish when we saw it.mute wrote:video aside and cup of tea or not, the hating here is absurd. next time someone starts up a thread about vangelis, emmerson, wakeman, etc. people should return the favor.
I don't believe you are as self-aware as you might think.Sweep wrote:I don't think you've understood the issue here. It isn't about `hating'. I don't think any of us hate Money Mark. Personally I don't - I quite honestly couldn't give a toss about him. What this is about is the very poor quality of a video that's supposed to be about Moog. Money Mark can peddle his rubbish as much as he likes, but making silly noises and claiming they're the coolest thing you can do with a Moog is a complete waste of people's time and money. As I said before, my Moog playing friend and I just laughed at him and at much of the video as a whole. We didn't hate. We just recognised rubbish when we saw it.mute wrote:video aside and cup of tea or not, the hating here is absurd. next time someone starts up a thread about vangelis, emmerson, wakeman, etc. people should return the favor.
Or look at it the other way: there are plenty of people I don't hate at all, and actually like a lot. But if they were on a Moog video they'd be in the wrong place. Even though Money Mark is obviously a complete tosser, this isn't about hating.
"Hate" ist such a strong word. After all, you have to "love" something first if you want to hate it.mute wrote:video aside and cup of tea or not, the hating here is absurd. [...]
It's perfectly simple. I don't hate someone for being a tosser. And surely we've established in this discussion that Money Mark didn't know what he was talking about - indeed, shouting about as if he'd discovered something momentous - which makes him tosser, doesn't it?silikon wrote:Surely you can't expect anyone to take you seriously, stating it's not about hating someone whilst calling one a tosser.
Regardless, while you can debate whether it's the coolest thing you can do with a minimoog, the amount of vitriol aimed at Money Mark (some to the point of comical) has no place in a thread where someone is simply asking about technique.
Why is it not OK to hate someone? Or to say they are a tosser, a wanker, a no-talent hack, etc?Sweep wrote:It's perfectly simple. I don't hate someone for being a tosser. And surely we've established in this discussion that Money Mark didn't know what he was talking about - indeed, shouting about as if he'd discovered something momentous - which makes him tosser, doesn't it?silikon wrote:Surely you can't expect anyone to take you seriously, stating it's not about hating someone whilst calling one a tosser.
Regardless, while you can debate whether it's the coolest thing you can do with a minimoog, the amount of vitriol aimed at Money Mark (some to the point of comical) has no place in a thread where someone is simply asking about technique.
This isn't just a topic where someone is asking about technique. Someone asked whether other people find the Moog video as bad as they found it. So we've discussed that.