DSI Prophet 12 Module

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Re: DSI Prophet 12 Module

Post by Jabberwalky » Fri Dec 20, 2013 10:46 pm

What was the Sq80 street price in 1988?? Probably more.

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Re: DSI Prophet 12 Module

Post by GuyaGuy » Sat Dec 21, 2013 3:06 am

Jabberwalky wrote:What was the Sq80 street price in 1988?? Probably more.
The ESQ-1 cost $1395, which is about $2900 today
I'm assuming the SQ80 was more.
philip wrote:Just as I thought, he stole the esq\sq design from Ensoniq, added a couple of features and put the cosmic price tag. Well done Dave.
Yep. Well and added 12 analog filters. And some knobs. And modular-like routing capabilities. And a completely different sound.

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Re: DSI Prophet 12 Module

Post by celebutante » Sat Dec 21, 2013 4:47 am

Bitexion wrote:He'd have lost his marbles if he went out in public and said "yeah this new one is OK, but the Prophet-5 is still the best I ever made" :D
He should. It's true. (disclaimer: new stuff does way more, probably never breaks... and doesn't sound as nice)
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Re: DSI Prophet 12 Module

Post by danbroad » Sat Dec 21, 2013 10:56 am

Yes, the cheek of it. I think taking a $2900 synth design ethos, adding a load of analogue filters, updating the display to 2013 standards and selling it for $2100 is plainly a dirty, no good thing to do. I'd much rather DSI reconditioned a few old ESQ's and sold them for $5000. That would be a far more honest business approach.

I'll bet this rack gets a great reputation once people start looking past the interface. Didn't hurt Elektron...
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Re: DSI Prophet 12 Module

Post by Ashe37 » Sat Dec 21, 2013 5:07 pm

Added *four* analog filters. And one more oscillator and sub-oscillator per voice. (The ESQ is 8 voices with analog filters) And added a bunch of wave-shaping options that Ensoniq didn't have the CPU power to do.

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Re: DSI Prophet 12 Module

Post by Stab Frenzy » Sun Dec 22, 2013 11:38 pm

I think it's hilarious that people are comparing this to the ESQ 1. When I first got my first Evolver many years ago I was comparing it to the ESQ 1 I was repairing for somebody and the ESQ didn't even come close to having the depth or breadth of sound of the Evolver. The P12 adds a bunch more options to the oscillator section and feedback/delays as well. Maybe if you're only interested in doing vanilla stuff you could compare them, but the P12 is hugely more capable.

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Re: DSI Prophet 12 Module

Post by meatballfulton » Sun Dec 22, 2013 11:45 pm

Jabberwalky wrote:What was the Sq80 street price in 1988?? Probably more.
$1900 MSRP as I recall.

Other flagships of the time like D50, M1, DX7 were about the same. "Street prices" as we know them today didn't really exist back then.
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Re: DSI Prophet 12 Module

Post by celebutante » Tue Dec 24, 2013 8:15 am

I gotta jump in here as well- I'm not much of a fan of DSI stuff, but comparing them to ESQ1 and SQ80 is a little silly. I own an ESQ1 and an SQ80 and dig them, but just because they have wavetables and Curtis filters, that doesn't make them much like new DSI stuff. The great thing about the Ensoniqs are the gronky waves- sort of a poor man's PPG. For better or worse, they sound NOTHING like a new DSI synth and have plenty of old-school limitations (wonky underpowered LFO's, weird sounding PWM, etc.).
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Re: DSI Prophet 12 Module

Post by Jabberwalky » Tue Dec 24, 2013 11:18 pm

The only comparison I made to an ESQ is the menu editing style. The sound is nothing alike. Not sure how that happened :)

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Re: DSI Prophet 12 Module

Post by Ashe37 » Wed Dec 25, 2013 4:18 am

yeah, i meant its interface and said so...

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Re: DSI Prophet 12 Module

Post by GuyaGuy » Wed Dec 25, 2013 4:50 am

It was mostly this guy.
philip wrote:Just as I thought, he stole the esq\sq design from Ensoniq, added a couple of features and put the cosmic price tag. Well done Dave.
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Re: DSI Prophet 12 Module

Post by Dr. Phibes » Wed Dec 25, 2013 5:18 am

You guys are the ones driving Mr. Smith to drink.

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Re: DSI Prophet 12 Module

Post by Jinsai » Wed Dec 25, 2013 6:02 pm

The Prophet 12 is a fantastic synth and worth every penny.
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Re: DSI Prophet 12 Module

Post by bluntedcircuit » Thu Dec 26, 2013 4:26 am

Off topic this thread made me look up an esq on eBay and buy one.

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Re: DSI Prophet 12 Module

Post by megamanx » Thu Dec 26, 2013 5:14 pm

If you were looking for a cheap prophet 12 you will be very, very disappointed.

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