Korg to release ARP Odyssey

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Re: Korg to release ARP Odyssey

Post by pflosi » Thu Aug 28, 2014 1:03 pm

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shaft9000 wrote:here's hoping it's a lot sturdier than the flyweight MS-20 mini i tried in a store a while back. the thing could have broken just by dropping it on the carpet.
what are you jabbering about, the ms-20 mini weighs 10.5 lbs.
The original is 7.7. kg, so the Mini is ca. 61% of the weight at 84% of the space of the original :mrgreen:

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Re: Korg to release ARP Odyssey

Post by Stab Frenzy » Thu Aug 28, 2014 1:08 pm

External power supply would account for a lot of the weight difference, not to mention that something half the width will have a quarter the surface area and an eighth the volume. ;)

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Re: Korg to release ARP Odyssey

Post by pflosi » Thu Aug 28, 2014 1:32 pm

Good point on the PSU.

It's not half the width though but 84% of the size (i.e. volume as far as I understand it) according to Korg...

Also I was more joking than anything else really, as indicated by Mr Green ;)

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Re: Korg to release ARP Odyssey

Post by Re-Member » Thu Aug 28, 2014 5:27 pm

I see this kind of bunk science all the time... "More weight = Better build quality"

Absolutely not true whatsoever. The heavier something weighs, the greater the impact when dropped.

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Re: Korg to release ARP Odyssey

Post by Dr. Phibes » Thu Aug 28, 2014 8:24 pm

^ Yeah but the sturdier the frame the better it is at dissipating the force through it.

Seriously, having dropped handled more than my fair share of synths/organs whatever I know where I stand on vintage/modern build quality.

The one big upside modern stuff has however is the lack of a stonking great big transformer ready to break free and cause havoc.

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Re: Korg to release ARP Odyssey

Post by Re-Member » Thu Aug 28, 2014 9:50 pm

That's incorrect. The more flexible a material is, the more force it absorbs.

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Re: Korg to release ARP Odyssey

Post by mpa1104 » Thu Aug 28, 2014 10:06 pm

Re-Member wrote:The more flexible a material is, the more force it absorbs.
In that case, the force must be strong in my Juno 2








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Re: Korg to release ARP Odyssey

Post by Dr. Phibes » Thu Aug 28, 2014 10:11 pm

Re-Member wrote:That's incorrect. The more flexible a material is, the more force it absorbs.
I won't take your word for it then

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Re: Korg to release ARP Odyssey

Post by Re-Member » Thu Aug 28, 2014 10:57 pm

Hey, I'm just saying what I've encountered from my own personal experience as well. I usually gig with a Korg R3 and microSTATION, both of which feel somewhat filmsy and only use a softcases with them. I've dropped both several times with and without the softcases and everytime they would just bounce right off the floor without any kind of damage. I use them live solely because of the fact that they are cheap and easily replacable. Meanwhile, I've got a Juno-60 sitting at home which feels super sturdy and heavy, yet I wouldn't trust dropping it even in a hardcase because I know that all the extra solid weight could possibly cause internal damage on impact. h**l, this is why it's got those cheap partical board end panels to absorb the force. If it had solid metal end panels and fell on its side, it would be like hitting the synth with a hammer on impact.

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Re: Korg to release ARP Odyssey

Post by Dr. Phibes » Thu Aug 28, 2014 11:52 pm

I think there is only one logical way to decide this:

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Re: Korg to release ARP Odyssey

Post by commodorejohn » Fri Aug 29, 2014 12:38 am

Re-Member wrote:That's incorrect. The more flexible a material is, the more force it absorbs.
While true, absorption of force is not always something you want. It's a great thing in crumple panels on cars because any force absorbed by the car body is force that isn't getting transferred into the cabin and the passengers contained therein - but the whole point behind that is that the car body is both far less fragile and far more expendable in the grand scheme of things than the passengers. The internals of a synth are more important than the externals, to be sure, but they're also not nearly as comparatively frail, and the externals are important, too.
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Re: Korg to release ARP Odyssey

Post by mute » Fri Aug 29, 2014 12:45 am

mpa1104 wrote:
Re-Member wrote:The more flexible a material is, the more force it absorbs.
In that case, the force must be strong in my Juno 2

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Re: Korg to release ARP Odyssey

Post by mpa1104 » Fri Aug 29, 2014 2:25 am

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Re: Korg to release ARP Odyssey

Post by Kidney05 » Fri Aug 29, 2014 3:43 am

I just hope it comes out sooner than later, isn't delayed or stuck with bad production issues, and sounds like the original... And it doesn't cost $1200.

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Re: Korg to release ARP Odyssey

Post by calaverasgrande » Fri Aug 29, 2014 5:03 pm

Re-Member wrote:I see this kind of bunk science all the time... "More weight = Better build quality"

Absolutely not true whatsoever. The heavier something weighs, the greater the impact when dropped.
and the sturdier the chassis, possibly the more overbuilt the power supply.
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