Will Dave Smith reissue the Pro One?

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Will Dave Smith reissue the Pro One?

Post by Swayze » Wed Feb 19, 2014 11:45 am

Korg has been getting all the love lately and I'm sure the other synth companies are feeling some sibling rivalry. However, it's pretty obvious that Roland and Yamaha have moved on from analog and aren't looking back. At least that has been the case but maybe after a couple years of R&D they too will throw their hats in the ring. So who does that leave to compete with Korg in the analog realm today? Dave Smith. And if he owns the rights to analog classics like the Pro One, whats holding him back? Could he be working on a reissue as I type this? God I hope so...

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Re: Will Dave Smith reissue the Pro One?

Post by Blue Monster 65 » Wed Feb 19, 2014 12:11 pm

He's on record as saying the Mopho (original keys version) is his new, updated version of the Pro One. Would be nice if he did, though.
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Re: Will Dave Smith reissue the Pro One?

Post by Stab Frenzy » Wed Feb 19, 2014 1:16 pm

Also Yamaha bought out Sequential Circuits when they went under didn't they? So Yamaha would own the patents, not DSI.

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Re: Will Dave Smith reissue the Pro One?

Post by meatballfulton » Wed Feb 19, 2014 2:27 pm

No, but Korg will :agree:
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Re: Will Dave Smith reissue the Pro One?

Post by V301H » Wed Feb 19, 2014 7:59 pm

A couple of minor improvement suggestions for any company considering a re-issue of the Pro-One:

1.Separate Rate control for the Sequencer

2. Add Sample & Hold or at least Random Waveform to the LFO
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Re: Will Dave Smith reissue the Pro One?

Post by Swayze » Wed Feb 19, 2014 10:15 pm

Stab Frenzy wrote:Also Yamaha bought out Sequential Circuits when they went under didn't they? So Yamaha would own the patents, not DSI.
That explains it, what a bummer. I guess the best we can expect from Dave right now would be any better sounding vco mono. If Yamaha finally does get around to reissuing the Pro One, it won't be as cool since the SCI legacy sort of lives on in DSI, albeit a completely different company. Playing a Yamaha Pro One just wouldn't feel right...:?

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Re: Will Dave Smith reissue the Pro One?

Post by tim gueguen » Wed Feb 19, 2014 11:58 pm

I would imagine there's zero likelihood of Yamaha doing a Pro One. They can't even be bothered to introduce a new VA synth or dance oriented products to compete with Korg and Roland, so it's even more unlikely they\d do a new version of someone else's design.
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Re: Will Dave Smith reissue the Pro One?

Post by Automatic Gainsay » Thu Feb 20, 2014 12:31 am

Based on what Dave said at the panel he was on at NAMM, it's pretty unlikely.
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Re: Will Dave Smith reissue the Pro One?

Post by synthparts » Thu Feb 20, 2014 1:31 am

To do a proper Pro One he would need the CEM3310, CEM3320 and CEM3340 in production again which ain't gonna happen... If he tried to do it with the DCOs and PA397 it wouldn't be any different than his DSI offerings...
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Re: Will Dave Smith reissue the Pro One?

Post by Swayze » Thu Feb 20, 2014 3:22 am

Word, you guys are addressing all the points I was curious about last night. So a brand new Pro One is simply out of the question...bugger. What I'd love to see then from Dave instead is a shift back to vco analog. No one could stop him from releasing a "Prophet One" or "Prophet 01" :lol:

Start from the ground up, maybe paint it white this time, cover it with those ballsy black knobs and call it a day. I don't really care if it's a reissue, just as long as it sounds great and is flexible. I know he claimed the Mopho was sorta the reincarnation of the Pro One, but I owned one and it just fell short IMHO. Those DCO's don't cut it for me, but I'm a bit of a tone freak and hard to please. My problem, not his. In any case, I'm curious to see how DSI responds to Korg's recent offerings.

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Re: Will Dave Smith reissue the Pro One?

Post by dustinh » Thu Feb 20, 2014 3:43 am

There are so many VCO synths on the market right now, especially monos. Personally, I'm more interested in what dave smith is doing with the prophet 12. I'd much rather see some newer technology and hybrid synthesis as the market is pretty heavily saturated with analog monosynths these days.

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Re: Will Dave Smith reissue the Pro One?

Post by 8bit9bot » Thu Feb 20, 2014 5:12 am

if dave smith can somehow get those old ICs made again... i'd be pretty happy... i'd buy a bunch just to make sure my P5 lives longer - i really doubt he will do it but all of the old SCI gear owners would be so happy just to have these parts be available again - my P5 is @ three wave music right now... i spotted something like 6+ Prophet 5's in that place getting worked on... it'd be smart if someone made a new bunch of products that use those ICs... memory moog and jupiter 6 owners would benefit too - heck i might even buy the new product that used the old parts

final note... i dont understand why DSI doesnt use any VCOs at all on any products

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Re: Will Dave Smith reissue the Pro One?

Post by commodorejohn » Thu Feb 20, 2014 6:19 am

8bit9bot wrote:final note... i dont understand why DSI doesnt use any VCOs at all on any products
Dave Smith has gone on record as thinking that DCOs are superior and that they just got a bad rap due to low-res early digital control, and thinks that adding adjustable "slop" to the pitch is sufficient to mimic the desireable qualities of VCOs. I don't think he's right, but he certainly seems to be staying that course.
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Re: Will Dave Smith reissue the Pro One?

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Re: Will Dave Smith reissue the Pro One?

Post by synthparts » Thu Feb 20, 2014 8:28 am

8bit9bot wrote:if dave smith can somehow get those old ICs made again... i'd be pretty happy... i'd buy a bunch just to make sure my P5 lives longer - i really doubt he will do it but all of the old SCI gear owners would be so happy just to have these parts be available again
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