Would you buy a CS80 if re-released?

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Re: Would you buy a CS80 if re-released?

Post by Jabberwalky » Fri Apr 11, 2014 3:15 am

Automatic Gainsay wrote: Are there any examples of really poorly-designed synthesizers with terrible circuit topology that are overall great-sounding synthesizers? What on Earth are you talking about?
Yes. The Octave Kitten.

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Re: Would you buy a CS80 if re-released?

Post by Rezisehtnys » Fri Apr 11, 2014 3:26 am

Jabberwalky wrote:
Automatic Gainsay wrote: Are there any examples of really poorly-designed synthesizers with terrible circuit topology that are overall great-sounding synthesizers? What on Earth are you talking about?
Yes. The Octave Kitten.
Certain Italian synths stand out to me as well. :P

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Re: Would you buy a CS80 if re-released?

Post by knolan » Fri Apr 11, 2014 11:52 am

You know what? The number of views of this thread is quite interesting and in itself may suggest a healthy interest in the return of instruments like the CS80!

The interest - even if just curiosity for most - is similar to the 'interest' shown in similar threads prior tot he actual release of the likes of the minibrute.

Hmm...

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Re: Would you buy a CS80 if re-released?

Post by pflosi » Fri Apr 11, 2014 12:11 pm

^ Can I assume then, from the fact that the current "V-Synth" thread in general has 8 pages as well, but more than twice as many views, that a new V-Synth is due as well? :mrgreen:

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Re: Would you buy a CS80 if re-released?

Post by Rezisehtnys » Fri Apr 11, 2014 12:29 pm

You know, a new V-Synth would be a lot better than what they're doing now.

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Re: Would you buy a CS80 if re-released?

Post by calaverasgrande » Fri Apr 11, 2014 4:44 pm

Rezisehtnys wrote:You know, a new V-Synth would be a lot better than what they're doing now.
I was just thinking today, on some other thread someone made a comment that current Moog Music is hardly the company or the designs that the Original, New York company was. (debatable)
Well Roland, while they still makes synths, is not even a shadow of a shadow in that regard.
At least Moog is still doing analog gear, and innovating with new designs like freqbox, clusterflux and Sub37, while re-booting old ones like the Taurus.
Roland is making what, the TR8?
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Re: Would you buy a CS80 if re-released?

Post by alan partridge » Fri Apr 11, 2014 7:04 pm

I was thinking today that Korg has done over the last couple of years basically came out of the blue. Yamaha shocked everyone in 1982 and kept what they were doing under wraps - moog were on the point of releasing a new polysynth until they were dumbfounded to see the dx7 unveiled at a tradeshow. Japanese companies have got form on bombshell changes.

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"The SL8 had finally started becoming a decent sounding Moog that would split, layer, and edit from the panel and scan and store about ten patches. It ran on the development system until two days before NAMM.

At the hotel suite across from the center, we had a sales meeting before NAMM and I had been pledged to secrecy not to "spill the beans".

I performed about a 15 minute demo with the ten sounds and then watched the faces with big smiles thinking big success.

After a few drinks everyone was discussing how to market the instrument to the "big dogs" that would be brought over to the hotel from the show for a demo.

Next day, the major synth sellers in the U.S. were given private demos and the vaporware SL8 was given thousands of units of token orders.

On the last day of the show I finally got some time to go over to the floor and at the Moog booth I saw an ashen faced Herb Deutsch say to me "Craig, go over to the Yamaha booth." I went over and saw a sleek keyboard and put on the headphones ..... to my great surprise this new six-operators synthesizer with new algorithms and feedback and velocity and pressure was astounding. I asked how much .. and the answer explained Herb's crestfallen demeanor. How would Moog compete with this? "
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Re: Would you buy a CS80 if re-released?

Post by Rezisehtnys » Fri Apr 11, 2014 8:49 pm

Roland used to be my favourite of the big 3, but not anymore. They're heading towards bankruptcy just like Nintendo is.

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Re: Would you buy a CS80 if re-released?

Post by alan partridge » Sat Apr 12, 2014 9:27 pm

Expect the unexpected from Japan.

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Re: Would you buy a CS80 if re-released?

Post by Swayze » Sun Apr 13, 2014 2:47 am

What I think would be cool is if Yamaha developed a CS80 emulator as an expansion to their Motif XF series. Much like the D50 card for the V-Synth. If that's not possible now, they should include it as an option for their next line of workstations. As useless as the Jupiter 80 is for my setup, the fact that it can mimic the architecture of the Jupiter 8 as a virtual analog is kinda sweet.

Since Yamaha tends to focus on performance-oriented keyboards, this seems like the next logical step to me. I'd consider getting a Motif with a virtual CS80 living inside it accessible via touch screen. Add crazy sample mangling and Yamaha could have themselves a serious rival to the V-Synth.

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Re: Would you buy a CS80 if re-released?

Post by Sir Ruff » Sun Apr 13, 2014 3:32 am

calaverasgrande wrote:
Automatic Gainsay wrote:
calaverasgrande wrote: I actually put the MS20 in the 'making beats' category. It is a less popular, but still well known piece among dance music people.
Why would you do that?
I've coveted an MS20 for a long time. I was really surprised it was re-issued. I had no idea it was a
"well known piece among dance music people" until the gushing and goo-gawing started in earnest on many online forums. I'd thought all that stuff was done with a 303 and an Alpha Juno.

I make no apologies for my hatred of dance music. And yes I do own a X0X, but I don't let it sound 'acid'.
? so what on Earth did people make "dance music" with before the juno and 303 were released? :shock:
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Re: Would you buy a CS80 if re-released?

Post by CS_TBL » Sun Apr 13, 2014 8:46 am

Sir Ruff wrote:? so what on Earth did people make "dance music" with before the juno and 303 were released? :shock:
That'd be disco then; with string machines, clavi, rhodes/piano, guitars, drums, mellotron and big mamas.
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Re: Would you buy a CS80 if re-released?

Post by synthparts » Sun Apr 13, 2014 12:01 pm

CS_TBL wrote:
Sir Ruff wrote:? so what on Earth did people make "dance music" with before the juno and 303 were released? :shock:
That'd be disco then; with string machines, clavi, rhodes/piano, guitars, drums, mellotron and big mamas.
Some of the best disco was done on a Moog Modular... :D
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Re: Would you buy a CS80 if re-released?

Post by Bitexion » Sun Apr 13, 2014 6:45 pm

And Yamaha GX-1 in ABBAs case.

But they probably wouldn't have needed that, they just piled on layers upon layers of everything to get "that" sound.

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Re: Would you buy a CS80 if re-released?

Post by Sir Ruff » Sun Apr 13, 2014 11:07 pm

Well, disco "died" in 1980, leaving a 2 and 5? year delay before the 303 and juno were released, respectively. I guess there was simply no "dance music" in the interim :lol:
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