Minimoog Fade-In Effect?

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Re: Minimoog Fade-In Effect?

Post by ItalianStallion81 » Wed Nov 12, 2014 7:43 pm

The exact fade-in effect I want to recreate can be heard here:


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Re: Minimoog Fade-In Effect?

Post by Walter Ego » Wed Nov 12, 2014 7:44 pm

madtheory wrote:Thanks, I'll see if I can find that control on my Casio.

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You can't--the CZ doesn't have an analog volume control.

Damn, OK, so I need to get an analouge?
You need analouge fingours. Mine are digital; I converted them in the 80s when digital was cool. I can automate them with MIDI but they're still a bit steppy because I couldn't afford the firmware upgrade to 2.03.
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Re: Minimoog Fade-In Effect?

Post by Bitexion » Wed Nov 12, 2014 7:49 pm

If you have a filter cutoff parameter you can do the same thing! But only if your ADSR envelopes are longer than 30 seconds of course. Can't turn the knob/slider itself.

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Re: Minimoog Fade-In Effect?

Post by Swayze » Wed Nov 12, 2014 8:13 pm

Thanks for the tip. The volume pot is the best, I find myself using it a lot. :headbang:

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Re: Minimoog Fade-In Effect?

Post by madtheory » Wed Nov 12, 2014 10:46 pm

Walter Ego wrote:
You need analouge fingours. Mine are digital; I converted them in the 80s when digital was cool.
Mine are digital too. Doc says it's genetic. Hey, we must be related man!

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Re: Minimoog Fade-In Effect?

Post by madtheory » Wed Nov 12, 2014 11:03 pm

pflosi wrote:#-o

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Thanks man super helpful diagram I found it. Rockin the level as we speak :)

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Re: Minimoog Fade-In Effect?

Post by Sir Ruff » Thu Nov 13, 2014 12:54 am

madtheory wrote:Thanks, I'll see if I can find that control on my Casio.
Sir Ruff wrote:You can't--the CZ doesn't have an analog volume control.
Damn, OK, so I need to get an analouge?
yeah, I think the CZ uses DCO for volume.
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Re: Minimoog Fade-In Effect?

Post by pflosi » Thu Nov 13, 2014 1:18 am

madtheory wrote:
pflosi wrote:#-o

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Thanks man super helpful diagram I found it. Rockin the level as we speak :)
Cool man, glad I could help. Yeah it's a little tricky to find. Free DCO tremolo! I actually prefer it that way, nicely in phase.

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Re: Minimoog Fade-In Effect?

Post by madtheory » Thu Nov 13, 2014 1:05 pm

pflosi wrote:Cool man, glad I could help. Yeah it's a little tricky to find. Free DCO tremolo! I actually prefer it that way, nicely in phase.
Ya I think this control is actually analouge? But I operate it digitally.

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Re: Minimoog Fade-In Effect?

Post by gs » Thu Nov 13, 2014 6:47 pm

Somewhat related to this... I was wondering if I could use a 1975 Yamaha GX-1, or a 1936 Hammond Novachord, or an 1897 Thaddeus Cahill Telharmonium... to press a key, get a sound, and then slowly fade that sound down? Now, I know FOR SURE that these are the only 3 instruments on Planet Earth where this kind of complex synthesis gesture is possible. How on earth is this done?
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Re: Minimoog Fade-In Effect?

Post by Walter Ego » Thu Nov 13, 2014 7:07 pm

gs wrote:Somewhat related to this... I was wondering if I could use a 1975 Yamaha GX-1, or a 1936 Hammond Novachord, or an 1897 Thaddeus Cahill Telharmonium... to press a key, get a sound, and then slowly fade that sound down? Now, I know FOR SURE that these are the only 3 instruments on Planet Earth where this kind of complex synthesis gesture is possible. How on earth is this done?
There is one other rare instrument upon which this complex synthesis gesture can be performed, and it is certainly NOT Leonid Termen's hunk of junk--everyone knows that is operated by small Russian elves living inside the oversized wooden cabinet (see figure 1). No, it is the Casio VL-1. One can actually take one's own hand and move it in a vertical (up and down) motion above the audio output (aka "c**p Speaker"), both "fading in" and alternatively creating a "tremolo" effect by rapidly hovering it. It is a great feat of musical hand-eye coordination, but can be accomplished with many years of tutelage and rigorous practice.

See Figure 2 for visual reference.

Figure 1: Russian Elves hiding inside RCA Theremin cabinet.
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Figure 2: Complex Synthesis Volume Gesture performed by virtuoso hobbyist
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Re: Minimoog Fade-In Effect?

Post by vicd » Thu Nov 13, 2014 8:56 pm

Walter Ego wrote: Figure 2: Complex Synthesis Volume Gesture performed by virtuoso hobbyist
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Roland recently came up with its own bland emulation, pretentiously called "D-Beam". Still powered by elves (Japanese ones now).

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Re: Minimoog Fade-In Effect?

Post by Sir Ruff » Thu Nov 13, 2014 11:34 pm

gs wrote:Somewhat related to this... I was wondering if I could use a 1975 Yamaha GX-1, or a 1936 Hammond Novachord, or an 1897 Thaddeus Cahill Telharmonium... to press a key, get a sound, and then slowly fade that sound down? Now, I know FOR SURE that these are the only 3 instruments on Planet Earth where this kind of complex synthesis gesture is possible. How on earth is this done?
On those, I don't think its possible. To achieve that effect, you have to manually cover the speaker slowly. Or ask the audience to leave to room at a set speed. Or cover their ears.
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Re: Minimoog Fade-In Effect?

Post by Cumulus » Fri Nov 14, 2014 3:08 am

Sir Ruff wrote:
gs wrote:Somewhat related to this... I was wondering if I could use a 1975 Yamaha GX-1, or a 1936 Hammond Novachord, or an 1897 Thaddeus Cahill Telharmonium... to press a key, get a sound, and then slowly fade that sound down? Now, I know FOR SURE that these are the only 3 instruments on Planet Earth where this kind of complex synthesis gesture is possible. How on earth is this done?
On those, I don't think its possible. To achieve that effect, you have to manually cover the speaker slowly. Or ask the audience to leave to room at a set speed. Or cover their ears.
I found a better way to acheive this effect.

I put the synth player on a flatbed truck and had it slowly drive away. This works best for outdoor gigs.

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Re: Minimoog Fade-In Effect?

Post by Zamise » Fri Nov 14, 2014 5:54 am

Or you could also put just the synth's pickup on the truck and push it down a hill. I find it reduces extraneous engine throttling noises during the recording process. Although, some people might... um yeah never mind I lost my train of thought... frozen marshmallows.
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