yamaha pss480 for $50 worth getting?

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yamaha pss480 for $50 worth getting?

Post by yamahacasio » Tue Dec 02, 2014 6:22 pm

yamaha pss480 for $50 worth getting?
on cl one of these popped up with charger and cace for $50 I already have a tx7, dx27s and pss470 but never have had my own pss480 They good usable synth? never realy got a chance to mess around to mutch with the frequency modulation possabilities of these

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Re: yamaha pss480 for $50 worth getting?

Post by ryryoftokyo » Tue Dec 02, 2014 6:53 pm

You already have stuff that's far more capable. Skip it.
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Re: yamaha pss480 for $50 worth getting?

Post by desmond » Tue Dec 02, 2014 7:40 pm

Aren't they just simple 2-op or 4-op FM machines? I doubt it can do much more than the 470, and certainly not more than a regular 4-op FM synth like a DX27... Skip it...

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Re: yamaha pss480 for $50 worth getting?

Post by Virgule » Tue Dec 02, 2014 9:12 pm

Yes, get it. You won't be dissapointed and you'll be glad you finally bought it. :)

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Re: yamaha pss480 for $50 worth getting?

Post by zoomtheline » Wed Dec 03, 2014 11:28 am

Don't bother, it does not bend anywhere near as well as say, the 470, 580, 380 etc.
Pretty boring. if it was 5$ then yeah why not.

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yamaha pss480 worth $50?

Post by yamahacasio » Sun Dec 07, 2014 12:27 am

thanks for the feedback everyone!

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Post by ellaguru » Sun Dec 07, 2014 12:53 am

if you have the pss470 yet, then skip it

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Re: yamaha pss480 for $50 worth getting?

Post by Walter Ego » Mon Dec 08, 2014 11:28 pm

ellaguru wrote:if you have the pss470 yet, then skip it
??

They're actually somewhat different. The 480 is part of the "MusicStation" line, I believe. I can't speak to the issue of bending it, but it has something major that the 470 lacks: MIDI.

I had a 570, which I think is nearly identical, except that it has the extra feature of using the digital synth patch in the chord and bass auto accomp. But it doesn't have MIDI.

I do have a 680, which has MIDI and is part of the "MusicStation" line. I think the 480 is a little brother, lacking the drum pads and 61 keys of the 680, but similar in terms of programmability. It is a 4-op, not 2 like the 470, and has more parameter controls. It also has a couple custom memory patches. It's digitally programmed though, unlike the 470, 570, etc.

So...if you haven't had one of the MusicStation line before, it might be a lot of fun to noodle on. I believe there's even a detune parameter. And there's a MIDI editor available which, in typical Yamaha fashion, opens up the patches for more editability.

I also recently found a PSR-36, which I am really liking. And it was $20! Anyway, it has sliders for immediate hands-on parameter tweaking (but no memory), but it does have a detune setting (4 op), and it has 61 full size keys, AND MIDI. So, if you have a chance to grab a PSR-36, PSR-41 (I think it's identical), or PSR-90 (even more FM goodies), go for those too.

But if you have cash to burn and want to have some fun, I say go ahead and get the 480. Worst you can do is flip it somewhere.
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Re: yamaha pss480 for $50 worth getting?

Post by ellaguru » Tue Dec 09, 2014 12:47 am

@Walter Ego
ah ok i see what you mean, the lack of midi...but, apart from that, the sounds are mostly the same...?
i have a pss390, wich i like, it seems to me almost the same to me...
...anyway, what is this "MusicStation" line?

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Re: yamaha pss480 for $50 worth getting?

Post by Walter Ego » Tue Dec 09, 2014 4:44 am

ellaguru wrote:@Walter Ego
ah ok i see what you mean, the lack of midi...but, apart from that, the sounds are mostly the same...?
i have a pss390, wich i like, it seems to me almost the same to me...
...anyway, what is this "MusicStation" line?
The sounds are similar, but from demos, I can tell you there is some difference in the character. The architecture of the 480 is different from the architecture of the more basic 380/390. Although, the the 380/390 looks to be somewhat unique. Again, no sliders on the 480, but you do have MIDI control and access to more parameters, including finer tuned digital control over envelope settings and a detune parameter. I believe there is also a sequencer of some sort on the 480 and 580/680/780. Not sure if it's 2 or 4 operator FM...but both have some unique character.

The "MusicStation" series is just the name for the 480/580/680/780 line. They had more programmable options.

Here's more info about the 390 compared to other home keyboard type Yamaha FM boards (at Tablehooters)...

http://weltenschule.de/TableHooters/Yamaha_PSS-390.html


Here's also a very handy visual and feature guide to the PSS series.

http://www.nurykabe.com/visit/text/PSS/page/

What's neglected in these resources is comments on the more sophisticated PSR series that still used FM. Yamaha didn't make too many of them, but they made the previously mentioned ones (the PSR-90 has a page dedicated to it on Legoluft), and also the far more advanced arranger type FM boards, the DSR series (DSR 1000 and DSR 2000).
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Re: yamaha pss480 for $50 worth getting?

Post by ellaguru » Tue Dec 09, 2014 10:31 pm

Walter Ego wrote: What's neglected in these resources is comments on the more sophisticated PSR series that still used FM. Yamaha didn't make too many of them, but they made the previously mentioned ones (the PSR-90 has a page dedicated to it on Legoluft), and also the far more advanced arranger type FM boards, the DSR series (DSR 1000 and DSR 2000).
i must say that i always considered the PSR serie as a toy :oops: ...could you suggest me some models to look for, or at least a site to read about them (i ll try to start from Legoluft)?
many thanks

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Re: yamaha pss480 for $50 worth getting?

Post by Walter Ego » Wed Dec 10, 2014 1:44 am

ellaguru wrote:
Walter Ego wrote: What's neglected in these resources is comments on the more sophisticated PSR series that still used FM. Yamaha didn't make too many of them, but they made the previously mentioned ones (the PSR-90 has a page dedicated to it on Legoluft), and also the far more advanced arranger type FM boards, the DSR series (DSR 1000 and DSR 2000).
i must say that i always considered the PSR serie as a toy :oops: ...could you suggest me some models to look for, or at least a site to read about them (i ll try to start from Legoluft)?
many thanks
Most of them are. But some of them are FM toys. And some of them have the "digital synthesizer" section with sliders in various forms. Sometimes the PSR boards are just full-size key versions of PSS boards.

I think the PSR-16 is an FM keyboard. I think it has the digital synth section. Basically you just need a photo of the keyboard to tell whether or not it's an FM board--they had a particular look: green lettering, small squared off rectangular buttons (green and purple). Detented sliders on either 5 or 8 steps, dark gray (almost black) chassis, etc.

The better ones are the PSR-36 and 41 (identical perhaps) and the PSR-90, which has some kind of sequencer. There may be more out there lurking, as they made so many over the years. But basically, once you see a number of them, you can start to tell just by sight whether or not it's FM. I don't know about a PSR equivalent of the "MusicStation" line, though.

There was also one vector synth home keyboard, I believe the PSR-790, which has a joystick for vector control.

That just about exhausts my knowledge in the vast arena of Yamaha home keyboards. Most of them are c**p (but well built usually), but there are some gems.
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Re: yamaha pss480 for $50 worth getting?

Post by ellaguru » Wed Dec 10, 2014 2:07 pm

ok many thanks

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Re: yamaha pss480 for $50 worth getting?

Post by zoomtheline » Wed Dec 10, 2014 2:40 pm

I have the 790 and yeah it's a simple vector synth of sorts. Fun with some effects slathered over the top.

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Re: yamaha pss480 for $50 worth getting?

Post by yamahacasio » Wed Dec 10, 2014 5:12 pm

I got the synth! lot of possabilities from a small machine! Nice portable synth to use along with my microkorg and can be used with bateries for on the go as well. I don't regret getting it

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