Digital Re-Surgence: .Holy Grail?

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Re: Digital Re-Surgeance: Holy Grail?

Post by Zamise » Wed Jan 07, 2015 4:58 pm

I'm by far no expert yet, but I'm thinking operator feedback is what makes me love certain DX FM guitar sounds so much, especially if it includes a sweeping HPF.

Is there a demo or anywhere we can hear that thing, Stabs? That could be an ultimate sleeper, an all digital modular. But yeah, where is the MCP (Master Control Program)? End of Line.
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Re: Digital Re-Surgeance: Holy Grail?

Post by balma » Fri Jan 09, 2015 4:57 pm

My holy grail is my command station obviously....

Still as my favorite synth and indeed there's no replace for it on my setup. I've owned around 20 or more synths after it, and still my battle horse. Even after getting a Prophet, the command station is my best sounding machine.
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Re: Digital Re-Surgeance: Holy Grail?

Post by calaverasgrande » Sun Jan 11, 2015 11:37 am

Fricking Waldorf Wave obviously! King of digital knobby synths (and wallet vampires too)
Or the OG PPG Wave 2.

btw Controlled digital feedback is amazing.
Some of the most messed up sounds I ever got are stereo digital guitar pedals with one output looped back to the input, usually with a low pass filter pedal as the control aspect.
Boss PS 5 is amazing for this with a moogerfooger lp. Set it to detune and fiddle with the delay, use the lowpass to tune the feedback a bit lower, it can tend to shoot up into pain territory.
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Re: Digital Re-Surgeance: Holy Grail?

Post by Jabberwalky » Thu Jan 15, 2015 9:41 pm

I've been toying with the idea for a digital modular as well Stabs. That looks damn nice. Is it possible to move this to general synths so it doesn't get obliterated in Off-Topic?

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Re: Digital Re-Surgeance: Holy Grail?

Post by Peopleunderthesun » Fri Jan 16, 2015 8:42 am

(Real quick cause I'm drinking at a bar) Digital Keyboards II+ w/ Kaypro II. Been getting into programming it lately (Thanks to Dan Wilson) each breakthrough feels like the first time. Exciting instrument. Yamaha V50. Very underrated, worth it opposed to the tx81z for the presets alone. Very underrated. I hope early digital comes back. I'll have more friends!

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Re: Digital Re-Surgeance: Holy Grail?

Post by ppg_wavecomputer » Fri Jan 16, 2015 9:52 am

calaverasgrande wrote: [...] PPG Wave 2.[...]
Same here. The Wave 2.0 (not 2.2 or 2.3, though they are nice) is one of the most amazing-sounding digital synthesisers I've ever owned and played.

When it comes to FM, in terms of playability I'd settle for a DX-1 or GS-1 but I wouldn't kick a Crumar GDS or a Synergy out of bed either.

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Re: Digital Re-Surgeance: Holy Grail?

Post by calaverasgrande » Fri Jan 16, 2015 9:58 am

there is someone in the South Bay that keeps trying to sell a DK Synergy ever 3 months or so.
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Re: Digital Re-Surgeance: Holy Grail?

Post by analoglsd » Fri Jan 16, 2015 11:03 am

Stab Frenzy wrote:I'm loving all the digital modular gear that's been coming out recently, stuff like Braids, Mysteron, Echophon, Erbe Verb etc. I think it would be easy to have a completely digital modular system and be very happy with it now.
Stab Frenzy wrote: Image
I'm with this Stab Frenzy^. The digital eurorack coming out right now is off the chain. It has been for a while, bit now Oliver from Mutable Instruments is taking everything up a notch with his visionary imagination and amazing programming skills. The killer thing with euro, as well, is that you can combine as much digital and analog as you choose. Most stand-alone synths, are generally, heavily weighed to one side or the other, like a 99%>1% ratio. My euro set-up, for example is more like 70/30. The above pic is a perfect example of genius digital designs.

Also, calaverasgrande mentioned the Waldorf Wave, and along that line, I just heard the Waldorf Q for the first time about a month ago. I was floored! The sounds my buddy was getting were amazing, and very pleasing to my ears. Didn't have enough time to get into it at all, but I was very impressed.

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Re: Digital Re-Surgeance: Holy Grail?

Post by Peopleunderthesun » Fri Jan 16, 2015 10:38 pm

calaverasgrande wrote:there is someone in the South Bay that keeps trying to sell a DK Synergy ever 3 months or so.
If it were a II+ I'd go down and get it right now. I couldn't really justify buying the preset version. Some of the presets are awesome, especially layered using the program function, but the amount of s**t you have to sort through to find the good ones is pretty heavy.

I got the Supermax mod for my Dx7 a while back. Really opened it up. Ive been getting some unique sounds out of it. Adds a stack mode w/detuning, arpeggiators, delay and you can save 512 patches to it. Makes it a new instrument to me

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Re: Digital Re-Surgeance: Holy Grail?

Post by ppg_wavecomputer » Fri Jan 16, 2015 10:58 pm

calaverasgrande wrote:there is someone in the South Bay that keeps trying to sell a DK Synergy ever 3 months or so.
It's too expensive, and honestly, I'm not too keen on having it shipped across the Big Pond, with all the customs hassle and taxes and shipping costs and duties involved. An instrument that basically is nothing but a preset playback device and which can't be programmed to play my own sounds isn't worth it.

Finding a working Kaypro would be another challenge I'm not too keen on so off the II+ goes...

Thanks, but I'll pass.

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Re: Digital Re-Surgeance: Holy Grail?

Post by Jabberwalky » Fri Jan 16, 2015 11:05 pm

Has anyone bought one of these? http://www.electricdruid.net/index.php? ... jects.vcdo. It looks really cool. If enough people are interested we could group buy them.

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Re: Digital Re-Surgeance: Holy Grail?

Post by Stab Frenzy » Sat Jan 17, 2015 12:43 am

Jabberwalky wrote:Has anyone bought one of these? http://www.electricdruid.net/index.php? ... jects.vcdo. It looks really cool. If enough people are interested we could group buy them.
Frequency Central do a Euro VCDO using that PIC. http://www.frequencycentral.co.uk/?page_id=629

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Re: Digital Re-Surgeance: Holy Grail?

Post by shaft9000 » Sat Jan 17, 2015 6:03 pm

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Re: Digital Re-Surgence: .Holy Grail?

Post by seamonkey » Sun Jan 18, 2015 2:15 pm

It's only a matter of time before some of the early digital synths make a comeback.
All things move in cycles, who would've thought vinyl records would be making a comeback.
Don't throw those 8 tracks cartridges and players away either.... oops I doubt there are more than 3 left on the planet. lol

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I dream of the day they will be going for outrageous $4-$5000USD on ebay. :lol:
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Re: Digital Re-Surgence: .Holy Grail?

Post by Jabberwalky » Sun Jan 18, 2015 3:28 pm

You never know! Some of the parts in these early digital synths are becoming hard to find (mostly things like proprietary switches, pitch benders, slider caps, lcd screens etc.). When I was looking for a Dx7, they slowly went up to around $300 - $400, when they were going for $100-200 previously.

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