Greetings From Yamaha USA Pro Music Customer Support

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Re: Greetings From Yamaha USA Pro Music Customer Support

Post by seamonkey » Thu Apr 23, 2015 3:59 pm

Bitexion wrote:Sometimes I wonder if this forum is 4chan. This is embarassing.
what is 4 chan and what is embarrassing? :?
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Re: Greetings From Yamaha USA Pro Music Customer Support

Post by mmp » Thu Apr 23, 2015 4:07 pm

While I sit back & relax, I suppose one man's smiley is another man's torch.
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Re: Greetings From Yamaha USA Pro Music Customer Support

Post by Hybrid88 » Thu Apr 23, 2015 5:18 pm

Eh.. This thread sums up everything I hate about this place, why is there a history of flaming people as first time members? Does anyone remember the moog modular thread with the guy who found it in a attic? That got nasty... It *always* gets nasty.

Heres a tip guys, if you want this to be a productive place try not coming across as total pricks when someone shows an interest in putting an input around here. :roll:

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Re: Greetings From Yamaha USA Pro Music Customer Support

Post by zoomtheline » Thu Apr 23, 2015 5:27 pm

yup

It's a shame but that's how all forums end up. People get comfier the more posts they have.

There are some great people on here and some great knowledge. There is a snooty vibe running through it sometimes which puts me off.

The difference between taking the piss in a fun way and genuine annoyance can get blurred and misinterpretation can cause awkward feeling. Shame.

Another thing that annoys me about this place... it makes me want to spend money ;)

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Re: Greetings From Yamaha USA Pro Music Customer Support

Post by seamonkey » Thu Apr 23, 2015 5:57 pm

YamahaSynths wrote:Hey Guys,

I'm an Applications Specialist here at Yamaha US Customer Support. Just wanted to make you all aware of us; and invite you to contact us if and when you have any pre-sale
or operational q's on your US Yamaha synths and keyboards!

Yamaha FAQ's: http://faq.yamaha.com/us/en/category

Contact Yamaha Customer Support: http://usa.yamaha.com/support/contact/pac/

Best regards,
Bob-
Yamaha USA
How is questioning the motive of this post flaming?
And how does it compare to a guy finding a modular in the attic and asking questions?
I quoted the original post in the hope it would refresh some about the content, which may have gotten lost on focusing on member's comments rather than why they were commenting.
Everyone is acting like Bob is simply a synth guy who stopped by here to make friends and talk about synth stuff.
He's done none of that, and has been commented, there has been no follow up comments or posts.

But what makes this especially disheartening is those of us who see Yahama'Synth's post differently are being made out as mean and petty.
Which then turns the thread into, at least in my case, the appearance of wanting to defend my comments.

I joined VSE back in 2007, and eventually took a multi-year break from commenting because of the very dark cloud of which you speak, only it was much worse.
I can only assume during my absence the flame wars have gotten worse and members who've been here are much more sensitive about it, because I really don't see what all the commotion is about.
You want flame wars, go visit GS or Harmony Central and you'll see how bad it can be.
Before I left here, the mods were having to lock threads every day, which got to be old real quick.

I only offered up my opinion as to the comments I read regarding YamahSynth's post and the suggestion members were chasing YamahaSynth out of the forum with pitchforks.
This was not an attack, it was simply saying I disagreed with the comment.
I think the mods here do a great job, and in general everyone behaves themselves quite nicely.

We come here to share synth questions, knowledge and love for what they are.
And as I said, life is too short to get stuck on something this silly.

So, let's party like it's 1999. :keys1:
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Re: Greetings From Yamaha USA Pro Music Customer Support

Post by Stab Frenzy » Fri Apr 24, 2015 1:22 am

If Bob was interested in a dialogue (ie he even checked back in to read the replies to this thread, and maybe responded to them) then people would be reaching a different conclusion. But he isn't. I'd be happy to be proven wrong here, it would be great to have a bit of an insight from Yamaha like there was from Dave Bryce when he was at DSI, or Amos at Moog, but that's not what I see happening here.

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Re: Greetings From Yamaha USA Pro Music Customer Support

Post by SquareWave » Fri Apr 24, 2015 1:50 am

knolan wrote:I agree with mmp - this is an open forum - Bob's as entitled as anyone to be here - even as a representative of a corporate entity - once he follows the forum rules like anyone else. This isn't a forum for just musicians and there is no owness to "explain yourself"- it's for synthesists too (some do sound design on 1960's modulars, so do DJ'ing on 2015 plugins); and it's for passers by with no qualified explanation needed as to why they joined.

In my opinion, there are not enough healthy interactions with synth companies on this forum - they could contribute a great deal - but this forum has a history of members attacking posts quite frequently aggressively with minimal moderation (it's in the 'culture' of this forum) so I suspect that's part of the reason why it hasn't happened much.
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Re: Greetings From Yamaha USA Pro Music Customer Support

Post by meatballfulton » Fri Apr 24, 2015 12:05 pm

Moderator hat on

I was the second person to respond to Bob. I thought for a few minutes about whether to delete the post as spam and explain to him why I did. However, he was not trying to sell anything so I let it stand.

If people want to discuss what the mods should and should not treat as spam, let's do that in another thread over in Forum Issues & Support.
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Re: Greetings From Yamaha USA Pro Music Customer Support

Post by Z » Fri Apr 24, 2015 12:53 pm

Did y'all scare him off?

I'd like to see a knobby FM 'board. I was digging on the concept art from a year ago of 3 new synths from Yammy (FM, VA and Phys Mod), but would prefer to have at least 4 octaves, not 3.
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Re: Greetings From Yamaha USA Pro Music Customer Support

Post by StepLogik » Fri Apr 24, 2015 4:07 pm

Z wrote: I'd like to see a knobby FM 'board. I was digging on the concept art from a year ago of 3 new synths from Yammy (FM, VA and Phys Mod), but would prefer to have at least 4 octaves, not 3.
Same here. Something like the DX200 in 3 or 4 octave keyboard format (Without the sequencer and drums to save on cost) would be a welcome product and one I think that would sell quite well if priced under $500. Maybe add the sequencer and drums for a "groovebox" edition similar to the JD-Xi but keep the base model synth-only for those who just want the FM engine.

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Re: Greetings From Yamaha USA Pro Music Customer Support

Post by Walter Ego » Fri Apr 24, 2015 5:58 pm

StepLogik wrote:
Z wrote: I'd like to see a knobby FM 'board. I was digging on the concept art from a year ago of 3 new synths from Yammy (FM, VA and Phys Mod), but would prefer to have at least 4 octaves, not 3.
Same here. Something like the DX200 in 3 or 4 octave keyboard format (Without the sequencer and drums to save on cost) would be a welcome product and one I think that would sell quite well if priced under $500. Maybe add the sequencer and drums for a "groovebox" edition similar to the JD-Xi but keep the base model synth-only for those who just want the FM engine.
I would love to see the same thing, but I think in a "slidery" format, not knobby, ala the DX-1. How much would cost to make something like an updated DX-1, that's at least programmable in the same way from the front panel? Not a DX-1, but something styled that way, so it can be played expressively live as hardware.
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Re: Greetings From Yamaha USA Pro Music Customer Support

Post by Zamise » Fri Apr 24, 2015 6:48 pm

Seeing how their future of yamaha synths forum went, this is a joke right? Sorry loved Yamaha, I'm one of their biggest fanboys, but they need a lot of making up to do if they don't want to be laughed out of the current synth arena. Please keep some knobs handy because I'll need to order some from you soon, thanks support @ yamaha. Seriously I need some endless encoder covers for my FS1R and CS6R.
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Post by commodorejohn » Fri Apr 24, 2015 7:10 pm

Knobby FM would be great; one of my in-the-vague-future projects is to build such a thing with one of my spare OPL2 chips and a keybed I salvaged from a cheap Roland MIDI controller.
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Re: Greetings From Yamaha USA Pro Music Customer Support

Post by Stab Frenzy » Sat Apr 25, 2015 5:27 am

Z wrote:Did y'all scare him off?
He hasn't even looked at the thread since he posted it, check his log in history.

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Re: Greetings From Yamaha USA Pro Music Customer Support

Post by synthroom » Sat Apr 25, 2015 6:36 am

Maybe he has a life and a job that are more important to him than checking a forum he just joined?
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