Yamaha SY22 vs SY35

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Yamaha SY22 vs SY35

Postby K-man » Wed May 27, 2015 8:49 am

Hi

I´m considering of buying one of this synths and I´m no t sure what to choose. I know that there are some little differences between but I don´t know if they are really significant.

The principal differences are:

-SY22 has 12 bit samples resolution against 16 bits in the SY35

-They have the same quantity of waveforms (128 samples and 256 FM) but some of them are different, so they don´t sound exactly similar.

-The SY-22 internal bank is empty, while SY-35's is preprogrammed. In consecuence, the SY-35 has a Factory Internal Voice & Multi Restoren function that the SY-22 has not (I don´t know what this exactly means).

Apart of this, I think that both are exactly the same. Another doubt I have is if these synths have keyboard split option, to cut it in two parts to play two different patches at the same time, like in the DX7II.


The prices would be 190€ for the SY22 and 250€ around for the SY35. Both are in excellent condition.


So, Is there too much difference in the sound? Which do you consider better option?

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Re: Yamaha SY22 vs SY35

Postby White » Wed May 27, 2015 11:06 am

I'd say go for the SY35, I used to have one and thought it was great, I ended up programming 192 sounds for it. Not sure, as it's been a while since I owned an SY35 but I'm sure that SY22 and TG33 sounds can be loaded into it.
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Re: Yamaha SY22 vs SY35

Postby K-man » Wed May 27, 2015 2:05 pm

White wrote:I'd say go for the SY35, I used to have one and thought it was great, I ended up programming 192 sounds for it. Not sure, as it's been a while since I owned an SY35 but I'm sure that SY22 and TG33 sounds can be loaded into it.



Thanks for your answer ;)

Can you tell me if these synths have keyboard split option?
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Re: Yamaha SY22 vs SY35

Postby White » Wed May 27, 2015 3:24 pm

I can't remember, I don't think so. I could be wrong though. The SY35 does have something called Note Limit for each of the elements, (I think), which may be similar. You could have a four element voice and may be able to split them individual elements across the keyboard.
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Re: Yamaha SY22 vs SY35

Postby meatballfulton » Wed May 27, 2015 4:07 pm

Both synths are 8 part multitimbral.

You can set high and low note limits for each part along with the MIDI channel to create up to 8 zones split or layered as you see fit.
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Re: Yamaha SY22 vs SY35

Postby hageir » Thu May 28, 2015 12:02 am

I've got a SY22, I like the 12 bit sounds but sometimes I would want them to be a bit more quality (especially in the low end, they get too crispy/muddy, BUT the FM is much better in that spectrum)
I like it, the keyboard is nice (as a controller) but the front-panel editing is a bit tedious.
I recommend the SY22 editor (can also edit the SY35)

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Re: Yamaha SY22 vs SY35

Postby joeboy » Fri May 29, 2015 2:51 pm

There's a SY35 for less than 100USD at the local shop right now and it's taking a lot of willpower to stop myself from snatching it up. All the demos sound so cool.
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Re: Yamaha SY22 vs SY35

Postby zmd » Sat May 30, 2015 2:32 am

I just started using a tg33, like the sy35 I think. And its great! I'm gonna see if the editor will work for it too:)
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Re: Yamaha SY22 vs SY35

Postby Ashe37 » Sat May 30, 2015 3:08 am

zmd wrote:I just started using a tg33, like the sy35 I think. And its great! I'm gonna see if the editor will work for it too:)


TG33 is like an SY22. yes the editor works for it.
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Re: Yamaha SY22 vs SY35

Postby K-man » Sat May 30, 2015 8:34 am

Hi to everyone

I finally have purchased the SY22 by 190 € in excellent condition (almost new). I have tested it only a few minutes but yes, the interface looks limited and boring. Is that editor available for Win XP? Where can I download it?


And another doubts...

-Can the voices combination be altered? I want to mean: Is it possible to combine only 4 FM voices, or 1 AWM + 3 FM, or 3 AWM + 1 FM... or only is possible 2AWM + 2FM??

-Can this synth make dark/lo-fi sounds similar to the DX7/7II ones?

-How dou you see this synth for pads/sounds destinated to new/dark wave and post-punk music?

Thank you so much!
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Re: Yamaha SY22 vs SY35

Postby White » Sat May 30, 2015 2:03 pm

Voice combinations cannot be altered - it's 2FM waves and 2AWM waves.

Yes it can do dark/lo-fi sounds.

Pads are OK, you'll find a lot of useful sounds on the ROM cards available.
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Re: Yamaha SY22 vs SY35

Postby Chevdo » Fri Jul 10, 2015 7:03 am

>Voice combinations cannot be altered - it's 2FM waves and 2AWM waves.

Actually on the SY22 and 35 you can mute any or all of them to enable any combination of ABCD. A and C are AWM and BD are FM, I think, or else the other way around. Anyway you can set it to _BCD which mutes A, or A_CD which mutes B, etc... They're actually very easy and intuitive synths to program, even with their limitations they are capable of a lot. The problem is programming from the interface is a chore, and your inc/dec buttons will wear out quickly if you do a lot of programming from the synth's controls.
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Re: Yamaha SY22 vs SY35

Postby White » Fri Jul 10, 2015 8:26 am

Oh yes, that's right - you could mute or turn off one or more of the four elements. The choice to have a two or four element sound is also possible, but the structure (2 FM + 2 AWM waves) cannot be changed.

I didn't find programming the SY35 a problem. It's easy once you know how. There was a very helpful parameter chart that came with it.
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