Yamaha Reface

desmond · Post by **desmond** » Sun Jul 05, 2015 12:25 am

They look horrible.

commodorejohn · Post by **commodorejohn** » Sun Jul 05, 2015 12:25 am

Intriguing.

Post by **meatballfulton** » Sun Jul 05, 2015 12:29 am

Yeah, it really looks like a piano player designed those keys

I hope they sound good. Like really good...

antilles · Post by **antilles** » Sun Jul 05, 2015 12:30 am

Looks like cheap MIDI keyboards. Bummer.

mmp · Post by **mmp** » Sun Jul 05, 2015 12:37 am

meatballfulton wrote:Yeah, it really looks like a piano player designed those keys

I hope they sound good. Like really good...

If by that, you mean that's why they left off the mod and pitch wheels.

Jabberwalky · Post by **Jabberwalky** » Sun Jul 05, 2015 1:22 am

The sideways shitpic on a bed was just bothering me.

Miles Powerhouse · Post by **Miles Powerhouse** » Sun Jul 05, 2015 4:12 am

salwa · Post by **salwa** » Sun Jul 05, 2015 8:14 am

Ommiting wheels puts them in Volca teritory (apparently they have phrase looper and are battery powered). I hope pricing will be similar.

kuroichi · Post by **kuroichi** » Sun Jul 05, 2015 9:41 am

They are starting to look more like a Casio product with each reveal.

Now I understand why they wanted to try and deflate the 'like a toy' concepts in the hype videos.

It seems odd to tie these big synth and piano emulations to such a toy like product. Especially considering the size of the CS80 and the amount of switches and sliders it has. I guess that's all in tune with the portable concept.

Hybrid88 · Post by **Hybrid88** » Sun Jul 05, 2015 10:01 am

Yeah, they also said they that they sound much bigger than they look, and to be fair looking small and cheap doesn't stop CS-01's selling for silly money.

I'll wait to see what they sound like before I cast an opinion, could be fun if they keep it reasonably priced

Broadwave · Post by **Broadwave** » Sun Jul 05, 2015 10:03 am

Will everyone quit it with the bloody mini keys - Korg, Roland & now Yamaha. I despair!

Hybrid88 · Post by **Hybrid88** » Sun Jul 05, 2015 10:08 am

^ Mini keys are a good medium between having another massive synth and an awkward module.

I kind of find the obsession with hating them a bit of an odd fixation, they're nothing new! I mean do you hear people complain about the EMS, Wasp, Buchla and CS-01 keyboards? In fact the majority of vintage synths have shite keyboards, doesn't stop people using and loving them.

The Pro One's keyboard blows, the Ensoniq SQ-80 clicks and clacks louder than it sounds, and the EMS VCS3 didn't even originally come with one, nor did it hold stable pitch, does that stop it being a classic?

To me, complaining about mini keys is ignoring the fact that all synths have limitations

Alphacode · Post by **Alphacode** » Sun Jul 05, 2015 11:47 am

Either i am completely blind or every one else is but for me these are not mini keys ! Look at the depth of the front of the keys. They might be slightly smaller or ms20 mini like (which would be ok). But i doubt they are mini keys...

Bitexion · Post by **Bitexion** » Sun Jul 05, 2015 12:13 pm

I don't think they use regular sized keys anymore because the age of the progrock/hammond keyboardist is long gone. Artists more or less use keyboards to trigger arpeggiators and sequencers more than play 6 finger keyboard chops.

And the only players who do those things are well into their 50's and 60's nowadays. You don't need a 6 octave fullsized keyboard to play a 3 note arp pattern. All the manufacturers have realized this.

And pianists and classically trained people like Rudess play on actual pianos or massive 76/88 key workstations with 10GB sample libraries anyway.

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