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Re: Roland Boutique

Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2015 2:00 am
by Stab Frenzy
I don't know how I feel about that... I'm not really that into the whole tiny thing, but their ACB stuff does sound genuinely good.

Re: Roland Boutique

Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2015 4:39 am
by Hybrid88
Yeah agreed, this is kinda odd. I mean I guess I get where they're coming from but surely having dipped their toes into real analog again with the System 500 and JDXa/Xi you'd expect another analog something along the way, maybe these are just a stopgap product.

I mean a book sized Jupiter 8?? And how is this boutique?? That's just bizarre, but I will agree their ACB seems bang on for modelling, really good digital emulation.

Also while small can sometimes mean fun, it's a little worrying that *everything* is going this way, I think people are really wishing for something a bit more solid and useable from the big manufacturers.

Re: Roland Boutique

Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2015 6:15 am
by Trevpwnsnoobs
4 voices a peice.. wow.. i knew something was off with those prices.

Re: Roland Boutique

Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2015 10:04 am
by Broadwave
OK, I've just sat up and taken notice! Prices seem to be ok - obviously direct competition to the Reface.

At that price, even if it is only 4 voice, I think the JP-08 may just tempt me back to the Roland fold - EDIT: Ohhh, the JP-08 has chain mode - buy two and link them for 8 voice poly!!) ;)

Those sliders are going to be minuscule, but I really want one (or two)

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Re: Roland Boutique

Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2015 11:10 am
by salwa
Links for easier use:
JP 08
JU 06
Jx 03
Keyboard
I still can't believe how tiny they are. 30 cm x 12,8 cm x 4,6 cm.

Re: Roland Boutique

Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2015 11:16 am
by smith toppleton
Looks pretty cool to me. Although the modules seem a bit undersized, I'm glad they got the message that a lot of us would rather use a master keyboard or sequencer than use minikeys.

I wish they would have put the pitch/mod sliders on the keyboard and made better use of the panel space though.

Re: Roland Boutique

Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2015 12:00 pm
by Jimkost2015
Competitive, add-on, pricing

Optional stupid mini-keys (thanks to the gods!!--)

This is the way it should be done (I'm talking to you, Yamaha)

I vote yes with my wallet in early November

Re: Roland Boutique

Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2015 1:23 pm
by Broadwave
I've just printed the JP-08 pic out life size for a better comparison - The sliders seem to be the same as the 20mm bourns LEDs, which I've use in a few DIY projects - they're nice and smooth, I have no problem with them - the knobs on the other hand are very tightly spaced - but at that price, who cares ;)

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Re: Roland Boutique

Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2015 3:31 pm
by vicd
1. Rackable? Would be good to have native "tilting" ears from Roland. V-Synth XT's ones are a perfect thing, IMO.
2. Virtually the same size as Waldorf's desktops (Blofeld, Pulse2). Good.

Re: Roland Boutique

Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2015 4:29 pm
by garranimal
Can't wait to hear how they sound. Wonder if they will offer plug-in VST versions. Having 4-voices, would be nice if the ACB models plug-out to the system-1...those controls look absolutely minuscule.

Re: Roland Boutique

Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2015 5:15 pm
by fh991586
All three modules are chainable, but it doesn't say if you can chain more than 2, or try to chain different modules together. It could be weirdly spectacular!

Re: Roland Boutique

Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2015 6:15 pm
by Chewy
Well, I'm definitely a little bummed. Seeing the 1st commercial with direct comparisons to the jp, jx, and Juno, I was really hoping they'd be analog. I guess I should expect that from Roland, though; the thought that they were yet another set of VAs did cross my mind.

They do look kinda cool, and I'm sure their ACB modelling is nice, but I'm pretty sure they're not for me.

Also, just putting this out there (in response to the idea that analog wouldn't be able to fit into a tiny space) - using ICs would allow an analog synth to fit into a fairly small package. Discrete circuits are awesome, but they're not the only way to make an analog synth.

The original synths these were modelled after used ICs, as well. I was really hoping that was the route they were going to take.

Re: Roland Boutique

Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2015 6:31 pm
by desmond
Do we know for sure they are all ACB?

Only the JP-08 explicitly states ACB modelling, and the JP-08 is more expensive than the other two.
I would expect them to be all digital, but it seems strange that only the JP-08 blurb mentions Roland's awesome ACB modelling...

And presumably, dual/layer mode - two voice polyphony... bah..!

Re: Roland Boutique

Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2015 7:13 pm
by Chewy
desmond wrote:Do we know for sure they are all ACB?

Only the JP-08 explicitly states ACB modelling, and the JP-08 is more expensive than the other two.
I would expect them to be all digital, but it seems strange that only the JP-08 blurb mentions Roland's awesome ACB modelling...
Good point, Desmond, I was wondering that myself. What if the JX and JU are analog DCO synths like the originals? That would certainly make me much less bummed. Small analog poly modules with all those knobs/sliders? Yes, please.

That would be pretty cool. It's probably not the case, but as you pointed out, JP is the only one that mentions ACB, which they're pretty proud of, if I remember correctly

Re: Roland Boutique

Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2015 8:58 pm
by Swayze
I have my eye on the JP08, just sold the CZ101 and need a replacement lap synth with a more friendly UI. This fits the bill perfectly. I'd also expect to see a larger keyboard released later where 2 modules can sit side by side. And it would be really smart if Roland released a mini version of the TR-8 that would sit in the same housing.

Do you hear me Roland? You build it, I will buy it.