Can you trigger the LinnDrum with Simmons SDS pads?

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Can you trigger the LinnDrum with Simmons SDS pads?

Post by WhinyLittleRunt » Sat Apr 23, 2016 6:11 pm

I just acquired a collection of original SDSV pads but without the brain. These came from a good friend of mine. He's had them forever, along with A Marc MX1 and MX1+ which there is not a lot of information about but appear to be trigger interfaces. I'm waiting to see if he finds the i'm waiting to see if he finds the SDSV brain in storage but in the meantime, is it possible to control a LinnDrum with these pads?

I'm super psyched about it, and even without the brain yet, I think finding original riot-shield pads is half the battle.
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Re: Can you trigger the LinnDrum with Simmons SDS pads?

Post by Z » Sat Apr 23, 2016 7:08 pm

The LM-2 has 5 trigger inputs and I know the you can trigger up to 5 sounds via audio signals as I demonstrate in this video (starting around 2:08):
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I would bet money you could also trigger the sounds from old Simmons pads. Later today, I can try it with an SDS9 pad and get back to you.

I've never heard of the Marc MX1. What is that?
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Re: Can you trigger the LinnDrum with Simmons SDS pads?

Post by WhinyLittleRunt » Sat Apr 23, 2016 8:59 pm

Z wrote:I've never heard of the Marc MX1. What is that?
Ha.. Kinda gonna say "beats me" lol- but I was able to find a listing posted on Matrixsynth with one and it looks like it's used as a trigger interface, possibly to work in conjunction with the LinnDrum, DMX, etc...

I need to get my hands on an original SDSV brain and bass drum to make the kit complete; I have the hi-hat pedal and 2 cymbals too :-). Those are hard to find...
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Re: Can you trigger the LinnDrum with Simmons SDS pads?

Post by Z » Sat Apr 23, 2016 10:00 pm

WhinyLittleRunt wrote:
Z wrote:I've never heard of the Marc MX1. What is that?
Ha.. Kinda gonna say "beats me" lol- but I was able to find a listing posted on Matrixsynth with one and it looks like it's used as a trigger interface, possibly to work in conjunction with the LinnDrum, DMX, etc...

I need to get my hands on an original SDSV brain and bass drum to make the kit complete; I have the hi-hat pedal and 2 cymbals too :-). Those are hard to find...
Interesting. I'd like to see photos.

If you don't find a SDSV brain, I'd be interested in the hi hat pedal and cymbals.

I regret to inform you that I forgot to bring a SDS9 (or any e-drum kit) pad home with me from my shop where I keep stuff "in storage".
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Re: Can you trigger the LinnDrum with Simmons SDS pads?

Post by WhinyLittleRunt » Sun Apr 24, 2016 2:13 am

Oh that's ok. I've been trying it out and it's not working so far, not that I thought it would... I even tried using the MX1+ but it does nothing at all and I'm sure I'm using it wrong because there is no manual. Oh well- I'll be on the lookout for an SDSV brain for sure. I'll find one eventually...
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Re: Can you trigger the LinnDrum with Simmons SDS pads?

Post by Z » Sun Apr 24, 2016 2:18 am

Have you assigned any of the LinnDrum's sounds to the trigger INs?
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Re: Can you trigger the LinnDrum with Simmons SDS pads?

Post by Z » Sun Apr 24, 2016 2:44 am

I just remembered, I have a Yoki electronic drum set in my storage shed that I bought for my oldest son 8-9 years ago.

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Re: Can you trigger the LinnDrum with Simmons SDS pads?

Post by WhinyLittleRunt » Sun Apr 24, 2016 4:15 am

Z wrote:I just remembered, I have a Yoki electronic drum set in my storage shed that I bought for my oldest son 8-9 years ago.

Here you go!
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Thanks! Unfortunately I tried that too... Got nada out of 2 of the 6 pads I've tested...

The trigger inputs do work; I tried it from a different audio source. The thing with the Simmons pads is that they're basically passive pickups under a hard plastic surface, so I guess it needs its "brain" to be able to function.
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Re: Can you trigger the LinnDrum with Simmons SDS pads?

Post by Z » Sun Apr 24, 2016 1:18 pm

WhinyLittleRunt wrote:
Thanks! Unfortunately I tried that too... Got nada out of 2 of the 6 pads I've tested...

The trigger inputs do work; I tried it from a different audio source. The thing with the Simmons pads is that they're basically passive pickups under a hard plastic surface, so I guess it needs its "brain" to be able to function.
I have only used my SDSV pads with the SDSV brain since they use XLR cables. I've used SDS9 pads with all kinds of stuff (mainly with a Roland PAD-80 back in the 90s), since they use 1/4" instrument cables.
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Re: Can you trigger the LinnDrum with Simmons SDS pads?

Post by fh991586 » Sun Apr 24, 2016 3:13 pm

Isn't it just a piezo mic under the plastic? Hit harder on the pad...
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Re: Can you trigger the LinnDrum with Simmons SDS pads?

Post by WhinyLittleRunt » Sun Apr 24, 2016 8:46 pm

fh991586 wrote:Isn't it just a piezo mic under the plastic? Hit harder on the pad...
The earliest ones are speakers, supposedly... I have only tested 2 out of the 6 or 7 pads I got so I will try the rest and see what's up, worst case scenario having to pull one apart and check the piezo...

I'm not hopeful the brain will turn up, which is a shame because it has the hi hat module in it :-(. So I will be on the lookout for an SDSV brain.
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Re: Can you trigger the LinnDrum with Simmons SDS pads?

Post by Z » Sun Apr 24, 2016 10:41 pm

WhinyLittleRunt wrote:
I'm not hopeful the brain will turn up, which is a shame because it has the hi hat module in it :-(. So I will be on the lookout for an SDSV brain.
Just an FYI, SDSV brains are fetching top dollar these days. I sold my extra SDSV brain with kick, snare and 4 toms in Dec 2014 for $900 USD. The hi hat and cymbal modules are very rare as most SDSV brains only have kick, snare & 3 toms.
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Re: Can you trigger the LinnDrum with Simmons SDS pads?

Post by WhinyLittleRunt » Mon Apr 25, 2016 12:15 am

Z wrote:
WhinyLittleRunt wrote:
I'm not hopeful the brain will turn up, which is a shame because it has the hi hat module in it :-(. So I will be on the lookout for an SDSV brain.
Just an FYI, SDSV brains are fetching top dollar these days. I sold my extra SDSV brain with kick, snare and 4 toms in Dec 2014 for $900 USD. The hi hat and cymbal modules are very rare as most SDSV brains only have kick, snare & 3 toms.
Yeah... I know :-/
I'm willing to pay for one if its fully functional. Having the hi hat and cymbal modules would be awesome since i have the pedal and the cymbal triggers. I'm just hoping it might turn up.
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Re: Can you trigger the LinnDrum with Simmons SDS pads?

Post by WhinyLittleRunt » Wed Apr 27, 2016 7:36 pm

So the brain never turned up :(. I went ahead and bought an SDSV with the hi-hat module included in excellent condition. I'm kind of psyched to have this, as corny as some people think they are. I just sincerely hope everything works without a hitch. I tested all my pads through a mixer at high gain to make sure the Piezo piece was working and they're all good except the cymbal, which I think is an easy fix.
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Re: Can you trigger the LinnDrum with Simmons SDS pads?

Post by Bitexion » Wed Apr 27, 2016 8:03 pm

I'm good with anything that sounds like Jarre's Concerts in China.

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