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Workaround since I don't have room for monitors?

Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2007 7:41 pm
by GeneralBigbag
Here it is:
I don't have room for monitors, or any of the general trappings of a decent mixing setup. I currently mix on headphones and a sony stereo, going between the two to try and compensate for the failings of each. I also use my radio station's shitty live monitors to test mixes, but there's obviously less room to make adjustments on the fly there.

If I can't
a)Get monitors at this stage
b)Do any modification of this room

What can I do, or do I have to suck it up until I get a larger space?
I guess I'm hoping someone's going to come in and say 'Hey, you can get these affordable headphones, and between them and the stereo you'll get by until you have room for monitors'
Or something of the sort....

Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2007 10:06 pm
by thediscoking
1) You could buy more accurate headphones. The fact remains that you would still be listening on headphones, with each ear being in a different "room", but it would probably help.

2) Get your stuff professionally mastered, which is essential anyway.

3) As you said, suck it up in the meantime :)

Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2007 10:42 pm
by GeneralBigbag
thediscoking wrote: 2) Get your stuff professionally mastered, which is essential anyway.

3) As you said, suck it up in the meantime :)
It's mainly the mix that I want to get right here, the major problem is that I can't get much of an idea of what the bass content is going to be on this stereo, in this room. Better to fix that then foist the problem on some mastering guy.

I guess I'd better start looking at rental listings :)

Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2007 11:08 pm
by wiss
I would mix on the headphones but listen to the track on a different stereo and make notes of what needs to be changed....keep going back and forth until you get it right.

Jan 2007 issue of Sound on Sound had a in depth article about mixing with headphone only

Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 3:03 am
by OriginalJambo
What wiss said.

Mix with headphones then listen to the mix on:

A consumer CD player with built in speakers, a decent consumer hi-fi, stereo computer speakers, shitty earphones (iPod ones or similar). As many different set ups as you can really!

Then just make notes of what sounded good and bad on each of the systems and try to reach a happy medium using what you learned.

Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 4:04 am
Well, if the sony stereo is also what you listen to most other music on I would assume that you have become quite familiar with the sound and should be able to mix on them well enough. I mean, do you think that engineers mix on NS10's because they sound good? No, they use them because they mimic your average shitty home stereo/boombox type speakers, so if your mix sounds good on them it will translate to a good mix on most any other system high or low end. But still reference back and forth between whatever other headphones/speakers that you have just to be sure. :wink:

Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 10:04 pm
by Soundwave
The NS10's I believe were originally hi-fi speakers but they aren't know for there supreme sound rather an upfront midrange which equate to 'if you can make it sound good on these then they will sound good on anything'.

I use AKG240 monitor headphones which are good and relatively inexpensive. You could maybe get some small JBL's or Roland micro monitors?

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Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 10:53 pm
by johans121
Can you provide a couple pictures of your room as well as its dimensions?

Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 3:00 am
by killedaway
do you really, really, REALLY not have room for monitors? not even a small 4-5" set? nothing?!

if that's so, i feel for ya. i'm just trying to get an idea of how bad it is to where you can't squeeze in a couple speakers somewhere.

Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 4:25 am
by i_watch_stars

If you have a room, or a corner in your apartment, you have room for monitors. Some companies are even selling "bookshelf" monitors now.

Now CASH..well thats a legetimate complaint...