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16 slider midi control boxes?

Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2007 1:06 am
by Zamise
So far my only choices seem:

Phillip Rees C16 (Out of production, rare, none on the bay)


Peavey PC-1600 or 1600x (Out of production, sought and favoring, but can't win when pop up on bay)


Kenton Control Freak (Still in production I think, kinda expensive, aint seen any on bay)


That Behringer BCR2000 looks kind of neat in an earlier thread, but its all knobs, I'd prefer something with 16 sliders and small like the ones I've shown here.


Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2007 1:42 am
by daddio
Don't forget the Doepfer Regelwerk.

Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2007 2:12 am
by Zamise
Ah yeah that looks like a really cool and impressive slider box, first 16 for me would be for velocity on those channels, then 8 extra for Res & Cut etc would be nice. If I can get a used one maybe, looks pretty expensive otherwise, so I'll still keep an eye out for one. Thanks!


Totally hot linking those images :twisted:


Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2007 4:53 am
by hageir
all those you mentioned :)

plus (only 8 faders, though they can be linked together..)
Behringer BCF2000

maybe you can find a MIDI mixer controller with 16 faders?
that's a little ridiculous though :lol:

Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2007 7:44 am
by tom Cadillac
I,v just bought (yet to arrive) a roland ef303. One of the reasons i got it was coz I hope to use the 16 sliders for midi control of locked up old digital synths. Mine was cheap, plus you get a whole lot more stuff with one of these. It might come soon and if it does I'll try and remember to let you know.

Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2007 1:30 pm
by Altitude
I would hold out for a PC1600 if your looking to go beyond the basis CC type stuff, for SYSEX it's about as good as it gets

Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2007 6:59 pm
by hageir

Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 2:25 am
by Twiddler
Lemur, of course. You know you want it!! 8)

Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 2:31 am
by Twiddler
Pocket Fader looks wonderful, I never saw it as I've seen it today before. :oops:

CME Bitstream 3X has caught my eye since I read a great review in SOS a few months ago. I was thinking of getting the novation keyboardless one, but the bitstream seems nicer, more programmable and flexible. I've never had a knobby midibox before so I have no idea what I am talking about though.

It's not at all what your asking for, so don't waste your time on these links: ... _front.jpg ... eam3X.html

Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 6:18 am
by MrHope
If you don't mind knobs there is the Evolution X-Session (M-Audio). NOT the X-Session Pro, but the older X-Session:


I have one of these.

Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 6:20 am
by Zamise
Pocket fader looks like page says sold out, does look neat, I'll have to keep eye out for one of those.

The others look neat too, but I would like at least 16, not 8, sliders. I may have to consder one of those though.

Thanks for listing more alternatives for me to look at guys. A Lemur, oh yeah in my dreams I do have one ;)


Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 12:39 pm
by crystalmsc
The PC1600x is nice, specially since it got a lot of presets for some popular synths. But it has no free editor. On the other hand, the Kentron Kontrol Freak got a free editor and also a lot of supported gears. Also seems like, it was built as a successor of the older 1600 line when it was released.

Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 2:58 am
by Zamise
Finally, I just won a Peavey PC-1600, hope it'll do the tricks I want it for...

Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 3:39 am
by aeon
The first time you remotely edit something via sysex and make that device sing, you'll know you made the right choice.

I put off getting it for years, but when I got my PC1600x, I realized so fast I should have done it years before! And it is built like a brick.


Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 2:00 pm
by desdinova
Doesn't the PC1600 also have an analogue-style sequencer mode?