Basic effect stack for Poly Evolver, Nord Lead?

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Basic effect stack for Poly Evolver, Nord Lead?

Post by synthmax » Fri Jan 02, 2009 7:16 pm

I am trying to create an effects stack for my outboard synths, particularly the Evolver and Lead since they don't have FX units. What types of units would you recommend at a minimum besides reverb/delay? Which units should I consider to get effects that are much superior to the typical built-in effects?

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Re: Basic effect stack for Poly Evolver, Nord Lead?

Post by Alex Hamilton » Sat Jan 03, 2009 1:51 am

Budget? We can go into $$$$ here...

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Re: Basic effect stack for Poly Evolver, Nord Lead?

Post by synthmax » Sat Jan 03, 2009 2:04 am

Yes, indeed. It's clearly possible to blow an entire budget on just one unit from what I am seeing. Is 250-500 per effect a reasonable budget to get something quality?

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Re: Basic effect stack for Poly Evolver, Nord Lead?

Post by Stab Frenzy » Sat Jan 03, 2009 2:12 am

I run my Evolver into an Eventide Timefactor, it sounds incredible. I'm a bit of a delay slut and I've tried running it through a whole heap of different stuff and the only other thing that gets close is the Yamaha E1010, but it's mono and too big for me to gig with. I used to use a Boss RE-20 which was really nice but it did something to the low mids which I used to always have to EQ out. The basic tone from the Timefactor is much nicer.

Re: Budget, I think you're better off just getting one great piece than a lot of smaller lesser ones, because you'll probably spend ages messing around with your sound and buying different things before you end up getting one great one anyway, so if you just get it at the start you'll save yourself a lot of time and money.

This is just my opinion of course, you might be happy with something else but I'm just giving advice from what I've found.

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Re: Basic effect stack for Poly Evolver, Nord Lead?

Post by nathanscribe » Sat Jan 03, 2009 12:21 pm

Getting the best unit you can afford is worthwhile advice, but don't discount the idea of adding cheap, specialised units in future. I've got a couple of generic multi-effect racks, and a pile of pedals and microracks that do one thing each. I tend to use the racks on the mixer aux sends (typically for reverb), and individual synths can be processed with things like delay pedals or an old analogue chorus or something.

One thing to consider is how many simultaneous effects you want. Some cheap racks might be able to chain two effects, some more. You might want to have delay on one input, reverb on another. You can probably arrange effects in serial or parallel on most units these days. It depends how you're going to be using your gear really.

As for what kinds of effects to use, I have several chorus, delay, flange, phase, and distortion/overdrive/fuzz units, and a couple of extra reverbs. Some are analogue, some digital, a couple have tubes in. They all sound different. I find small dedicated units a great way to explore effects, but it's not a cheap way to do it because there are so many variations.

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Re: Basic effect stack for Poly Evolver, Nord Lead?

Post by Alex Hamilton » Sat Jan 03, 2009 4:08 pm

Is 250-500 per effect a reasonable budget to get something quality?
Yes, I think so. You won't get top-of-the-line, but there's lots of good, useable stuff availabe in that range. As regards other effects, I'd recommend ignoring a multi-FX unit's capabilities with compression or EQ - I have a TC Electronic M350 on which I don't use either the EQ or compression (that said, that's because I have better alternatives); the delays and reverb however, are extremely useable. I haven't checked the manual for a while (and don't have it to hand so I can't check) but I believe on this (stereo) unit, you can set the two inputs up as mono and then put them both to a single out - this would allow you to connect both your poly evo and Nord at the same time without having to mess around with cables, though obviously you'd lose stereo effects (essential for ping-pong and useful for others).

Think about what effects you want from it: I'd say,
-a couple of variations on reverb
-same for delays
-phaser
-flanger
-chorus
-tremolo

It'll be difficult at that budget to get a unit with a really good-sounding distortion (as for the compression and EQ) but if you have it, you can at least ignore it if you don't like it, and you may find situations in which these effects are useful. Many units limit the combinations you can have at the same time.

Also, let us know what connectivity you want - analogue ins and outs only, S/PDIF (and sample rates), stereo/mono, MIDI control...And if you're willing to go second-hand, you may be able to get something that exceeds the capabilities of something new (bear in mind that older models of anything tend to have poorer converters [huge generalisation]).

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Re: Basic effect stack for Poly Evolver, Nord Lead?

Post by johans121 » Sun Jan 04, 2009 5:12 pm

I would say, "simply get the effects you like" :) I know that sounds like a BS answer, but seriously..... seriously..... everyone has their own preference when it comes to effects (as well as everything else for that matter). Go with reverb & delay. If those aren't for you, get a flanger, or if that isn't your gig get a pitch shifter. Or how about a filter, chorus, tremelo, bit crusher, overdrive, fuzz, compressor, frequency shifter, vocoder, or a ring modulator.

You know what, I have it. Get a filterbank. Yes. Get a filterbank.
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Re: Basic effect stack for Poly Evolver, Nord Lead?

Post by synthmax » Fri Jan 09, 2009 8:42 pm

Thanks for the thoughts! Can you guys recommend some of your favorite filterbanks that make great preowned values? I pretty much only buy preowned.

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Re: Basic effect stack for Poly Evolver, Nord Lead?

Post by ned-ryarson » Wed Jan 14, 2009 1:09 pm

i also have an evolver, mono keyboard.

i run it through a lexicon mx300. got it for £250.00 new. a really good purchase

its known for its nice, warm reverb, but ive found it superb for modulation too.


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Re: Basic effect stack for Poly Evolver, Nord Lead?

Post by johans121 » Wed Jan 21, 2009 4:50 pm

synthmax wrote:Thanks for the thoughts! Can you guys recommend some of your favorite filterbanks that make great preowned values? I pretty much only buy preowned.
I would try the following, it would be pretty cheap provided you got some pawn shops in your area. Get a cheap microphone, plug it into a recorder, wrap the mic in a waterproof bag, and drop it in a bucket full of water. Once you've done that you take your synth, hook it up so that sound comes out of a speaker or something, aim that speaker or something at the bucket full of water, hit record on your recorder and start playing your synth. Experiment with waterlevels & proximity of bucket to synth to adjust frequency response.
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