live gig in a sandpitt, how to make the gears survive?

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live gig in a sandpitt, how to make the gears survive?

Post by novielo » Tue May 12, 2009 2:44 am

i've been invited at "Poutstock". a 3 days show done by some oldtime friends. i want to go there, i'll get there.
the only thing is that it's in a sandpit. yes a sandpit. even more, it's a windy area. sand and alot of it gets everywhere .

what would be fine to bring there? sh-2000, modular and most of the effects with exposed mooving part will stay home. i would like to bring my laptop and build a show with live but i'm worried about the fans and disk drive. but with that s**t flying around, i realy don't know what i should bring. i even thought of building the complete set with a ds-10 a mixer and some effects.

do you guys have any ideas or suggestions to build a sand proof set?

here's some intertainment done there:



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Post by novielo » Tue May 12, 2009 2:51 am

he yeah, if you have also any suggestion how to not throw up before the show would be very appreciated. i've been off the stage for 6 years now because of that.
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Re: live gig in a sandpitt, how to make the gears survive?

Post by tallowwaters » Tue May 12, 2009 11:51 am

Perhaps build an extensive baffle to put around your gear.

As far as not throwing up due to nervous - jagermeister, crown, patron, or courvoisier were the only things that helped me.
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Post by novielo » Tue May 12, 2009 1:16 pm

baffle may be a good idea. i'll check with the guy that organize it. maybe we could work something out. h**l, he's planning to do his dj set in his van because of the last years he had to dismantle his cd player, turntable and the mixer because he couldn't even move a fader nor the tray of his cd player!

does the kp3 has alot of holes to let the send gets in?

thanks for the suggestion of being drunk when doing the set. but unfortunately i don't drink alcohol based beverage or bear. it would be an even bigger mess if i would do so :-) . and i suspect green tea won't be of much help either. :lol:
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Re: live gig in a sandpitt, how to make the gears survive?

Post by blitzdj86 » Tue May 12, 2009 1:37 pm

kp3 has lots of holes too...

what you need is like..

a metal box that has membrane controls only haha.. :/

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Re: live gig in a sandpitt, how to make the gears survive?

Post by Stab Frenzy » Tue May 12, 2009 1:51 pm

I would gladwrap (saran wrap?) a minimal amount of gear and use that, but I wouldn't do a show where my stuff would possibly get ruined.

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Post by novielo » Tue May 12, 2009 2:07 pm

blitzdj86 wrote:kp3 has lots of holes too...

what you need is like..

a metal box that has membrane controls only haha.. :/


but if i throw up everything will be safe... hahaha

does the kp3 heats up? could i tape the hole without any problems?
without a baffle the laptop and samplers (a4000 and s5000) looks like out of the game because of this.
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Post by novielo » Tue May 12, 2009 2:16 pm

Stab Frenzy wrote:I would gladwrap (saran wrap?) a minimal amount of gear and use that, but I wouldn't do a show where my stuff would possibly get ruined.
yes and/or boxed some stuff (compressor and such that aren't used while playing). i won't bring stuff that will be damaged by the sand. i have to narrow what i could brind/get there and i'll basicaly build a show from there, not necessarily from songs already made. it's in august so i still have time to compose a 1 hour set.

thanks alot for you suggestions so far!
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Re: live gig in a sandpitt, how to make the gears survive?

Post by blitzdj86 » Tue May 12, 2009 3:25 pm

novielo wrote:
blitzdj86 wrote:kp3 has lots of holes too...

what you need is like..

a metal box that has membrane controls only haha.. :/


but if i throw up everything will be safe... hahaha

does the kp3 heats up? could i tape the hole without any problems?
without a baffle the laptop and samplers (a4000 and s5000) looks like out of the game because of this.
The holes are around the buttons and the slider... so you cant easily tape them... you could wrap it in plastic though.

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Re: live gig in a sandpitt, how to make the gears survive?

Post by space6oy » Tue May 12, 2009 4:08 pm

maybe one of those mesh-walled tent things people use to close in outdoor tables & such... might help...

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Post by novielo » Thu May 14, 2009 1:24 pm

space6oy wrote:maybe one of those mesh-walled tent things people use to close in outdoor tables & such... might help...
i'm not sure it would work. for the coarse sized sand it should work but since the area is windy i think it would let the sand dust get through.

could someone with a kp3 could try the touch pad through a plastic film to see if it's working.

regarding the kp3: can you resample live with it? can you load samples while it's playing? can you use the pad as a midi controller, using the x-y to tie it to any midi cc?

i'm still not fixed, my first option is that i would like to do a live set with only 1 or 2 ds-10 but i think that the sound would be redundant if i only got this piece of gear alone. i'll do a jam with 1 ds-10 this week-end, i did some patches this week for it.

my other option is to bring the tenorio-on in a saran wrap dress as a controller with the s5000 sampler in a rubbermaid box. this would involve dissecting all my songs to put them in. and use the tenori-on to play the samples my remixing them live. i think it would be a good idea to get a kp3 as an outboard effect box.
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Post by novielo » Thu May 14, 2009 2:35 pm

just got and idea... i could put all the stuff in a sandblast cabinet or in that thing they use for premature born kids ... that could be cool.
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Post by tallowwaters » Thu May 14, 2009 9:29 pm

novielo wrote:just got and idea... i could put all the stuff in a sandblast cabinet or in that thing they use for premature born kids ... that could be cool.
Ah, the old gear in the incubation chamber trick... ;)

I actually have an old sand blasting cabinet around somewhere. Awesome idea, sir!
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Post by novielo » Fri May 15, 2009 2:50 am

thanks,
i already can see myself explaining why i bring a incubation chamber home...
-me: but it's for art purposes...
-she: don't you think it's a little creapy for the kids?
-me: nah! they'll put frogs in it when i won't need it anymore
-she: ....that's what i was afraid of

if i can find one. never saw that kind of things at the flee market.

the sandblast cabinet would also be cool by i wonder how i could take it around in my kia?
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Post by novielo » Wed May 20, 2009 10:54 pm

for those who where curious... i've yet to find a incubation chamber, a friend may take one from her job in halifax (!!??) for me. but it ain't done.

here's some pics of the site:
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inspiring isn't it?
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