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booming bass help

Posted: Mon Nov 30, 2009 1:37 pm
by muhammed
I recorded bass from my ms 20 but ı couldt mix it. ı dont know how to deal with booming bass sound.
I have big issue with software equlaziers. What am ı suppose to do . should ı buy hardware eq ?
here is my awful record http://rapidshare.com/files/314257861/U ... 0.wav.html

Re: booming bass help

Posted: Mon Nov 30, 2009 2:44 pm
by tallowwaters
Couldn't get the D/l to work, but I am going to guess that you should pull your 20-50 Hz down a few.

Re: booming bass help

Posted: Mon Nov 30, 2009 3:49 pm
by muhammed

Re: booming bass help

Posted: Mon Nov 30, 2009 4:04 pm
by madtheory
muhammed wrote: I have big issue with software equlaziers.
What's the issue?

Re: booming bass help

Posted: Mon Nov 30, 2009 5:11 pm
by muhammed
madtheory wrote:
muhammed wrote: I have big issue with software equlaziers.
What's the issue?
I pulled 20-50 Hz down then my analog bass loosed its warm'ness and originality. İt is the issue

Re: booming bass help

Posted: Mon Nov 30, 2009 6:05 pm
by tallowwaters
Well, what software are you using?

EQ isn't a simple and magical thing, it's a subtle art.

Re: booming bass help

Posted: Mon Nov 30, 2009 6:29 pm
by madtheory
Yes, there's an art to it.
muhammed wrote:
madtheory wrote:
muhammed wrote: I have big issue with software equlaziers.
What's the issue?
I pulled 20-50 Hz down then my analog bass loosed its warm'ness and originality. İt is the issue
Did you use a shelf or a notch? How many dB? What Q did you use?

Re: booming bass help

Posted: Mon Nov 30, 2009 6:55 pm
by muhammed
tallowwaters wrote: EQ isn't a simple and magical thing, it's a subtle art.
definitely.
I am using cubase.

Re: booming bass help

Posted: Mon Nov 30, 2009 7:21 pm
by muhammed
[/quote]
Did you use a shelf or a notch? How many dB? What Q did you use?[/quote]
yes.
ı am using cubase and its eq
Lo =-6db - 44.0Hz--6
lo mid=-9.6db-60hz-8
hi mid=-24db-20hz-6
hi=-7.7db-54hz-7.3

Re: booming bass help

Posted: Mon Nov 30, 2009 11:21 pm
by madtheory
muhammed wrote: Lo =-6db - 44.0Hz--6
lo mid=-9.6db-60hz-8
hi mid=-24db-20hz-6
hi=-7.7db-54hz-7.3
That's a completely bizarre eq. There must be something seriously wrong with your room/ speaker interaction. Do you have any acoustic treatment? Maybe post a pic of your setup, with the MS20 in there for a sense of scale.

Furthermore, I listened to your recording. The amount of bass is not excessive. Here it is spectrum analyzed- as you can see the biggest peak is in the "mud" area, 300Hz:
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Re: booming bass help

Posted: Tue Dec 01, 2009 12:13 am
by space6oy
what'd you use for that spectrum analysis?

Re: booming bass help

Posted: Tue Dec 01, 2009 9:19 am
by muhammed
This is Roger Nichols Digital Inspector. I use Sennheiser earphone so ı dont need acoustic treatment. I am thinking buying hardware eq.

Re: booming bass help

Posted: Tue Dec 01, 2009 10:21 am
by muhammed
here is another record.http://hotfile.com/dl/19158786/2a6c44f/ ... 3.wav.html ı recorded my roland sh 101 everything seems fine. ı guess ı have trouble mixing aggressive korg ms 20 basses

Re: booming bass help

Posted: Tue Dec 01, 2009 1:07 pm
by madtheory
muhammed wrote:This is Roger Nichols Digital Inspector. I use Sennheiser earphone so ı dont need acoustic treatment. I am thinking buying hardware eq.
If you don't already have an acoustically treated room and good speakers, then a hardware eq is a waste of money (and that's not an opinion, it's a fact). Get the room and speakers right first. Headphones, while good, are a compromise, and are more difficult to mix with than a well treated room with good speakers.

That said, the Roger Nichols Digital Unequalizer is probably the best eq under $500, hardware or software. That is an opinion. :)

Re: booming bass help

Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 1:29 pm
by k5k
muhammed wrote:I use Sennheiser earphone
bass boost?