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Star Trek Transporter

Postby Mic609 » Mon Mar 19, 2012 9:36 am

Hey im new to sound production and i would like some help recreating the star trek next gen Transporter Any ideas on the synth's used (like the choir sound and what chord it is) and how they did would be great help if you can Thanks
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Re: Star Trek Transporter

Postby Ashe37 » Tue Mar 20, 2012 12:06 am

iirc it was a fairlight...
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Re: Star Trek Transporter

Postby ApolloBoy » Tue Mar 20, 2012 2:47 am

The music for the first few seasons is full of D-50 and DX7 for what it's worth.
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Re: Star Trek Transporter

Postby Mic609 » Tue Mar 20, 2012 9:57 am

Well what puts me off the fairlight is that its about 30 grand and i doubt the sound team had that amount of money Synclavier prehaps ?
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Re: Star Trek Transporter

Postby Ashe37 » Tue Mar 20, 2012 10:06 am

They didnt *buy* them to create sound effects like that, they did what most artists did, rented time on them. Synclaviers weren't cheap either.


I found this article that states that one of the sound design guys used a Synclavier as of the mid-90s...
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Re: Star Trek Transporter

Postby madtheory » Tue Mar 20, 2012 10:35 am

ApolloBoy wrote:The music for the first few seasons is full of D-50 and DX7 for what it's worth.

Not worth much- music and audio post production (which is where effects are done, among other things) are entirely separate tasks. I think Chris Franke ex Tangerine Dream did the music, for the first season at least.
Mic609 wrote:Well what puts me off the fairlight is that its about 30 grand

That was new, they stopped making them about twenty years ago. Series III now would be about $7000, series II about $5000. And the Synclavier costs more.

It's a pretty complex sound, but has all the hallmarks of resynthesis on the Synclavier, as do all of the technology sounds in STNG.

If you're into sound design, check out Ben Burtt. A great innovator and a lot of info around about him and his work.
Ashe37 wrote:I found this article that states that one of the sound design guys used a Synclavier as of the mid-90s...

Great website. Article says they use Sync for effects and Fairlight for multitrack, so they're probably talking about Synclavier 9600 which does additive and FM resynthesis, and Fairlight MFX which is more of a multitrack editor/ recorder than a sampler, and doesn't do any synthesis.
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Re: Star Trek Transporter

Postby Ashe37 » Tue Mar 20, 2012 10:55 am

madtheory wrote:
ApolloBoy wrote:The music for the first few seasons is full of D-50 and DX7 for what it's worth.

Not worth much- music and audio post production (which is where effects are done, among other things) are entirely separate tasks. I think Chris Franke ex Tangerine Dream did the music, for the first season at least.


No, Franke did Babylon 5. STTNG was Dennis McCarthy, Jay Chattaway, Don Davis, John Debney and Fred Steiner, primarily.
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Re: Star Trek Transporter

Postby madtheory » Tue Mar 20, 2012 2:35 pm

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madtheory wrote:
ApolloBoy wrote:The music for the first few seasons is full of D-50 and DX7 for what it's worth.

Not worth much- music and audio post production (which is where effects are done, among other things) are entirely separate tasks. I think Chris Franke ex Tangerine Dream did the music, for the first season at least.


No, Franke did Babylon 5. STTNG was Dennis McCarthy, Jay Chattaway, Don Davis, John Debney and Fred Steiner, primarily.

O ya! Thanks, I mixed them up.
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Re: Star Trek Transporter

Postby Mic609 » Tue Mar 20, 2012 5:41 pm

then knowing what synths the used i was wandering How they Created the Transporter Sound effect. Basicly Cut a Long Story short Im doing sound Design and a score for this Star trek Game And they Want a New Transporter sound That sounds like the Next generation One (Same Chord and Choir Like sound) But new and updated. They don't want the next generation One but a remake of it with a new touch i wouldn't be here if i could just re use TNG's one :dontknow: it would be great if you could help me Thanks anyway with the instruments they used
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Re: Star Trek Transporter

Postby madtheory » Tue Mar 20, 2012 10:24 pm

Now you know what synth was used (Synclavier) I suggest you take a look at the manual and see how it works. The chord can be figured out by ear. I would be looking at FM8 and/ or Alchemy for the synthesis/ resynthesis to recreate what the Sync does. Alchemy do a fully functioning long duration demo, well worth trying.
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Re: Star Trek Transporter

Postby Mic609 » Tue Mar 20, 2012 10:58 pm

Thanks its a shame i can't get a Synclavier on my students Budget i have a DX7 though and FM8 Ill give it ago and ask you if i get stuck Thanks you been really helpful :D
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Re: Star Trek Transporter

Postby Ashe37 » Tue Mar 20, 2012 11:39 pm

I managed to create a transporter sound using the synthesis and filtering engine in Sound Forge... but this was like 11 years ago, and I was using the movie transporter (specifically ST II) as my objective, not TNG.
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Re: Star Trek Transporter

Postby Mic609 » Wed Mar 21, 2012 12:35 am

Nice I know the TOS Transporter was like a Hammond Organ Chord or Note threw a ringmod or something (Thats what i can hear anyway) it would be intresting if you still had the sound FX you made ;)
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Re: Star Trek Transporter

Postby Ashe37 » Wed Mar 21, 2012 12:53 am

naah i checked, i think it was on the system drive that died a long time ago...
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Re: Star Trek Transporter

Postby tomorrowstops » Wed Mar 21, 2012 1:41 am

thanks for the great article link, ashe - TNG has been a favorite of mine for a looooong time now!
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