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yamaha cs-5 vs cs-15 bass

Posted: Sat Dec 05, 2009 10:45 pm
by kissingteeth
any thoughts, going by specs alone it seems like it should be clear cut and the 15 should be better. however, i keep reading stuff saying that the 10 is better than the 15 for bass sounds etc. also seems like there is a lot of conflicting opinions out there as to whether either of these synths is really that great for bass...

Re: yamaha cs-5 vs cs-15 bass

Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2009 12:14 am
by nathanscribe
Depends what kind of bass sounds you want. "Better bass" is hardly objective. The 5 is more immediate but less flexible. The 15 will give you 2-osc sounds, and has an extra filter for interesting dual modulations - but the 5 is so simple it's hard not to get something out of it.

Horses, courses. What do you want, how much can you spend, get which you feel like and if it's not right, get the other.

Re: yamaha cs-5 vs cs-15 bass

Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2009 3:41 pm
by madtheory
In terms of frequency range of osc, filter and VCA, they're the same. The CS-10 allows you to add some snap to the attack, with the extra controls for attack in the filter envelope. I guess the CS-15 has the same envelope. The CS-5 has only one envelope just normal ADSR. Two oscillators is good, but it's not always the best thing for bass. As nathanscsribe says, it depends!

I think the 15 doesn't have sample and hold from the LFO. Is that correct? I think that's the only difference. Irrelevant for bass.

If you're looking for a bass line machine, the CS series is a bit limited. I'd be looking at a Pro One. Or a Nord Lead 2x ;)

Re: yamaha cs-5 vs cs-15 bass

Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2009 3:54 pm
by Stab Frenzy
CS-15 has S&H on the LFO.

A CS-15 with the series filter mod would be great for bass, you could run a resonant HPF to beef up the bottom end and also filter the top with a LPF. It's a great way to get beefy basses. I've got some good basses from my 15, although I'd rather have a Pro One or FR XS as my sole bass machine.

Re: yamaha cs-5 vs cs-15 bass

Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2009 9:12 am
by kissingteeth
thanks for the replies. I already have a mopho and micro mod that both do decent bass, so the yamaha wouldn't be my lone bass machine, i'm cool with using it for a lot of efx, processing and such. I was just curious. assuming that I can ever actually meet up with the seller one of these is going to be my first true analog, so I guess I'm just excited for that.

Re: yamaha cs-5 vs cs-15 bass

Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 9:41 am
by matia
the thing about the cs 15 isn't just the lovely bass sound (which will sit very well in a mix) but is also the access to those really wonderful sounding bandpass filters. That to me is the reason to go for the 15 over the 5.

Re: yamaha cs-5 vs cs-15 bass

Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 2:05 am
by R.L
A lot of people lean towards the CS-15 since it is a beefier synth with more flexibility, I love my CS-5, but basswise go Pro-one, the CS-5 is good in the sense their cheap and still a pretty common little guy, but go the CS-15 route its a bit more money, but you get a lot more programability.