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cs-15 midi to CV interface keton vs bass station fight!

Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2009 9:18 pm
by kissingteeth
I think I'm going to bite on a CS-15 locally and don't have any other CV gear other than my moog ring mod which I understand is a different CV. I'd like to spend under $300 for sure there is a bass station rack for sale near me for $250 which I read in another thread makes a good midi to CV for the CS monos, and you get another analog voice out of the deal which is great. however, I also got the impression that I was a more basic Midi to cv compared to what you get with the kenton boxes. any extra info, thoughts or alternatives would be great. thanks!

Re: cs-15 midi to CV interface keton vs bass station fight!

Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2009 11:03 pm
by schmidtc
Not sure if the bass station can spit out hz/volt scaling you'll need. I'd go with a kenton, the used ones can be found for that price and there quite reliable.

Re: cs-15 midi to CV interface keton vs bass station fight!

Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2009 11:31 pm
by matia
it can't. if all you need is your comp to control it maybe think about the kenton with usb. it has no midi on it, just a usb port but it does the job. been using it at uni lately to control all kinds of analog stuff and it works wonderfully and does volt/oct and hz/volt.

-matia

Re: cs-15 midi to CV interface keton vs bass station fight!

Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 3:24 am
by kissingteeth
thanks for the replies. just got home with my new cs-15, exciting! i did a little research and it does look like the bass station rack can be switched from 1v/oct hz/volt or s-trig at least according to this old review that I found.

If that proves to be correct would you guys still think that the kenton would give me more bang for my buck, I'm still relatively new to MIDI and this would be my first experience with CV so I'm open to any suggestions.

edit: I guess I should add that I'm not planning on going from the computer right now. just from either my machinedrum or MPC. if that makes any difference in your suggestions....

Re: cs-15 midi to CV interface keton vs bass station fight!

Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 4:32 pm
by Solderman
The problem with the BSR is, even if it supports Hz/V, which I believe it does, it has no fine tune options. A number of conditions can cause the pitch to offset once you plug in the CV cable, although the scaling may be correct. That means you'll have to retune the Yamaha once you switch to remote.
I don't think the BSR supports a seperate channel for the CV outs, so you couldn't do seperate sequences for BSR and Yamaha concurrently.

Re: cs-15 midi to CV interface keton vs bass station fight!

Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 5:38 pm
by Phenom
Solderman wrote:I don't think the BSR supports a seperate channel for the CV outs, so you couldn't do seperate sequences for BSR and Yamaha concurrently.
Actually the Bassstation Rack does this, and you can have a separate sequence to an external CV/Gate synth. Setting it up on a different channel is very simple. The Pulse Plus can also do this, but these two are the only rack synths that I can think of that can act as a discrete converter.

That said I sold my bassstation rack and got a Pro solo 2 instead mainly because it can act as a MIDI-CV and MIDI-SYNC 24 converter at the same time. (the mark 1 couldn't do this which is something to think about if you're thinking of buying a second hand Kenton).

Re: cs-15 midi to CV interface keton vs bass station fight!

Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 6:59 pm
by matia
you also get additions cv outputs on the kenton. you might need to build a multiple for the cs 15 as each oscillator and envelope are on separate jacks (buy a box and some jacks from radio shack and it's dead easy to solder together a basic mult). personally i would go for the kenton if you are looking for a midi to cv. if you want the bass station as a synth then go for that but i just feel it wouldn't be as comprehensive or multifaceted as a kenton.

Re: cs-15 midi to CV interface keton vs bass station fight!

Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2009 12:28 am
by RobotHeroes
kissingteeth wrote:edit: I guess I should add that I'm not planning on going from the computer right now. just from either my machinedrum or MPC. if that makes any difference in your suggestions....
I recently got a kenton pro solo II and I am kinda new to using CV as well. It was easy to set up and I've used it with my machinedrum/monomachine as a sequencer. I have used them to alter the values of the AUX CV, knob turns, to open and close the filter though and works out nice. I haven't used parameter locks for the AUX 1 output yet but it will probably be cool on the inputs of my MS-20.

If you were computer only I would say going with the USB version but sounds like you would be best off with the original like me. I didn't get the USB version because I didn't want to be limited to only using it with a computer. Also I only have 2 CV synths and their setup is the same so I don't need the extra settings memory the usb version has.