TR-707 vs TR-626

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TR-707 vs TR-626

Post by monolith » Wed Mar 10, 2010 12:28 pm

Which one would you prefer?

The 707 has the 'mixer' but the 626 has more versatile accent programming, and pitch control too.

Are the sounds the same?

The 626 is $50AU more.

Also I already have a TR-505

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Re: TR-707 vs TR-626

Post by Syn303 » Wed Mar 10, 2010 12:55 pm

I owned a 626 at one point, many moons ago, Pflosi owns a 626 though.

They say the 626 is basically a 707 & 727 rolled into one, minus a few sounds like the whistles, starchime & quijada, although they added a china & cup cymbal. The 626 allows you tune/pitch the drum sounds, which is not present on the 707/727 only volume sliders.

The 626 also has seperate outs like the 707/727. It's prob worth paying that extra $50 for the 626 imo.
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Re: TR-707 vs TR-626

Post by Z » Wed Mar 10, 2010 1:58 pm

The 707 also has DIN sync input so you can interface it with older gear with DIN sync whereas the 626 only has MIDI.

The 626 also adds an extra set of toms.

Something I used to do quite a bit 20+ years ago is use the TR machines as bass line sequencers. The MIDI note numbers are freely assignable on both machines, but with the 626 having double the voices (and double the MIDI note numbers), one is able to create more complex patterns or more patterns in different keys. Also, independent MIDI channels can be selected for different drum sounds. You could control multiple synths from the same pattern but you're limited by 30 notes (30 drum sounds on the 626).

Here's my thinking:
707, easy to use and better suited for live playing (has the mixer for muting sounds)
626, more complex machine, better suited for studio environment.

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Re: TR-707 vs TR-626

Post by monolith » Thu Mar 11, 2010 12:44 am

Thanks for the info!

Z, how does the trigger out work on the 626? Is it on the accent? also, is there 2?

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Re: TR-707 vs TR-626

Post by Z » Thu Mar 11, 2010 2:27 am

Trigger out on both 707 & 626 are rim shot

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Re: TR-707 vs TR-626

Post by pflosi » Thu Mar 11, 2010 12:27 pm

I have a 626 that I've been using a lot lately. also, just a few days ago, a mate borrowed me his 707. now i want one badly :)

I'm a bit surprised that you say the 626 is more $ than the 707. I've seen lots of cheap 626s over here, but no cheap 707s at all

I agree with all answers above. the trigger out is awesome, as is every trigger out on drum machines :) also, I'd like to add:

- the sounds are NOT the same. the 626 has way more, but they sound... hmmm... crappier. I tend to use the 626 only for the percussions, the 707 "kicks" way more for kick, snare, clap, toms. nevertheless, i like the hats and ride on the 626 too. every single sound on the 707 is awesome and classic IMO. i always have to EQ the 626 sounds, not really the 707 so far...

- obviously the interface is way cooler on the 707 because of the mixer. also in the studio IMO, especially if you like to record a few drum instruments at the same time over a whole track. also, it's easier to select instruments on the 707, since every instrument has its button. on the 626, all buttons feature 2 instruments, except for the open / closed hat. but that limitation comes with having more instruments... 626 has 30 instruments, 707 has 16

- the pitching on the 626 is cool, but only to adjust the pitch to the track. don't expect it to be a "nice" stepless pitch that can be altered in real time over a track. it's +-6 semitones. it can sound somewhat c**p on the extreme settings on some instruments, but it depends on the other drum tracks in the song IMO

- the accent and flam are nice on both. but, on the 626, you can alter it for every instrument separately, and the accent can be set from -3 to +3 for every step. on the 707, the accent is global for every instrument (you can just set the steps), and you can adjust it with the accent slider. that can add nice variations too, in some situations.

- shuffle is great on both.

- there is little more memory for patterns on the 707 (4*16 patterns on 707, 3*16 patterns on 626). also, the 626 has some patterns / tracks pre-programmed in its ROM, which you cannot overwrite. they can be fun though :D

- bottom line: they complement each other very nice, but for a single drum machine I'd go for the 707 first, and then add a 626 or 727. also, i think the 505 is basically the same as the 626 (instrument-wise), so since you have one I'd go for a 707

- if you're into circuit bending, i know the 626 offers a lot of funny options. just google it. don't know really bout the 707 though.

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Re: TR-707 vs TR-626

Post by Z » Thu Mar 11, 2010 2:38 pm

Regarding the sounds: the 707 definately sounds "crunchier" to me and the 626 more "smooth". Don't quote me on this, but maybe the 707 has a lower bit rate. I'm pretty sure the 626 is 12 bit, but maybe the 707 is 8 bit (sort of based on the "909 Sample Based" thread) since the 707 shares the same ride & crash as the 909.

Maybe if I have time today, I'll make a video of the 2. I've been planning to make a 80's Roland/Boss drum machine "family" video starting with the DR-55 & CR-78 (late 70's, I know) going all the way to the 626 (I think the R8 came out in '89, so maybe I can include the R-8M).

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Re: TR-707 vs TR-626

Post by alspacka » Thu Mar 11, 2010 4:48 pm

the 707 sounds way better. the interface is A LOT better. the mixer is really good to have and did I mention the sounds are way WAY better? the 626 is a cheap piece of c**p and isn't worth more than 30-40 bucks. the 626 has no dinsync out. no mixer (which basically makes it useless for jamming, unless you use all the different outs to a mixer which again is silly). the 707 feels like a real TR with a CLASSIC sound. intuitive programming and all the good stuff. the 626 is like programming a calculator.

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Re: TR-707 vs TR-626

Post by Z » Thu Mar 11, 2010 5:39 pm

Another good thing about the TR-626 is that is can run on batteries as well as external power. The 626 was the first drum machine that I ever had any experience with over 20 years ago. One of my friends saved up $400 to get one and let me borrow it from time to time. It was fun to be able to sit in the back seat on trips and program beats.

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Re: TR-707 vs TR-626

Post by thiagozt » Wed Jul 07, 2010 4:30 am

I own both and I would say the TR-707 is more fun and easier to use. I actually think the samples in the 626 might sound a bit punchier ( and there's more sounds and tweaking capability) than in the 707 but the sequencer is not a classic TR sequencer and that makes the whole difference to me. I wrote a review about the 707 and I would still recommend it over the 626. Here's the link to it if you want to read it, it is a great machine ( I use it as a master clock to control all my gear): http://unmidi.com/drum-machine/10-reaso ... nd-tr-707/

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Re: TR-707 vs TR-626

Post by Mooger5 » Fri Jul 09, 2010 12:13 am

The 626 lacks the cursor going through the steps. For that feature alone I´d choose the 707.
Just watch this video. I can´t get the same spontaneity when programming my 626.
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Re: TR-707 vs TR-626

Post by wesleymino » Wed Jul 21, 2010 12:00 am

To echo what Z said, as a standalone drum machine the tr-707 has better features and specs, but as a tr-style midi controller the 626 is more useful. The accent is more versatile and can give drum patterns more expression, and it can send midi in pattern, step-record or tap-record mode, so you can build up patterns and jump between them more easily while controlling a sound module/sampler than you could with a 707. Also as mentioned, 626 can control up to 30 different sounds at once, each one assignable to any of 16 midi channels. It's good for being able to control a sampler while syncing to analog synth arpeggiator/sequencer.

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