MS2000 vs Prophet 08

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MS2000 vs Prophet 08

Post by Arddhu » Sun Dec 26, 2010 3:14 pm

Argh! I know these threads are evil but some opinions here would really help me out.

I'm in the mood for a polyphonic synth with a built in mod sequencer that's as close as one knob-per-function as possible.

These two tick most of the boxes, I'm just wondering how people think they stack up. I'm NOT trying for an analog vs digital scenario, just curious as to the quality and functionality of sound. I usually hear the P'08 compared to other more expensive analogs and the MS to other VA's so yerkshemersh, you get the idea... I hope.

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Re: MS2000 vs Prophet 08

Post by meatballfulton » Sun Dec 26, 2010 6:38 pm

Hmmm...add the Radias to your list, it's the MS2000 on steroids plus more polyphony than P08 and is multitimbral, too

Question #1: how much polyphony do you need? MS is only 4 voices (2 if you layer timbres), P08 is double that and can be expanded (for $$$) by chaining more DSI boxes to it

Question #2: rack or keys? P08 keyboard has an extra octave of keys and nice action with aftertouch

Question #3: want multimode filters? P08 has LPF only, MS has BPF and HPF as well

Question #3: effects? MS has a few, P08 has none

Question #4: external audio? P08 has no inputs, MS can process audio plus has vocoder

Question #5: how important is real analog? P08 is the real deal, MS is not and it's noticeable


My own opinion:
Tight budget -> MS2000
Otherwise -> Prophet 08
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Re: MS2000 vs Prophet 08

Post by Arddhu » Mon Dec 27, 2010 1:49 am

Thanks for the reply.

This is a purchase where I'm not fooling myself into thinking that it'll actually make my music or creativity any better. I'm just after some easy to use knobby fun after only having a CZ-1000 and Mirage in my hardware setup.

I think the multimode filters, basic wave sequencing and the novelty of a vocoder may win out for now.

It'd be most rad if Jexus did a demo of the P08 so I'd have an idea of what it can sound like seeing as most demo's on youtube are either the usual "I just unboxed the thing and have no idea what's going on" or wanky synth solo shenanigans. Unless you could point me toward some I may have missed!

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Re: MS2000 vs Prophet 08

Post by solaristica » Mon Dec 27, 2010 6:31 am

I don't wanna make the waters murky or anything, but maybe you could consider an Yamaha AN1X -- cheaper than both, incredible sound, easy to use sequencer, and I believe it would fit your music rather nicely (I follow your tracks)... Jexus does have a couple of demos on it... His demo number 2 of this synth is really good...

I own the synth, and not only the sound is very warm, it is quite versatile, and it has amazing effects... As I understand it, the Korg sounds a little lighter, "thinner", which could suit your needs, or not... If the choice is between a digital synth and a true analog, perhaps a compromise can be reached with a digital synth that can sound "closer" to an analog one...

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Re: MS2000 vs Prophet 08

Post by Arddhu » Mon Dec 27, 2010 7:02 am

I do like the sound of the AN1x but I'm looking for something in module form to sit on the big blank panel on my Mirage. Space is at a premium right now!

I suppose I could look at the AN200 but I don't like the limited interface, sequencer and needing to access the computer to get amongst it all.

Thanks for the suggestion though, further GAS avoided for the time being! :)

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Re: MS2000 vs Prophet 08

Post by Stab Frenzy » Mon Dec 27, 2010 12:39 pm

The MS2000 and P08 are both good IMO, but for the money I would go for the MS2k. Radias is a good suggestion too.

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Re: MS2000 vs Prophet 08

Post by Arddhu » Tue Dec 28, 2010 11:41 am

Yep, I'm thinking so too.
Now all I need is to get my 4600 fixed up so I can sell it's a*s and buy something less behemothian.

Thanks for the input, chaps.

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Re: MS2000 vs Prophet 08

Post by Belaya » Tue Dec 28, 2010 1:00 pm

I have MS2000br and it's the most fun synth ever :) It definately sounds digital, but in a good way. i don't use it for typical pad/lead/bass sounds, because this is not the area where it shines the most. It's great for creative live tweaking: the mod matrix, step sequencer and the default mod routings in the OSC 1 section allow you to bend the sound from weird to bizzare really quickly.

I also had prophet 08, but i sold it. I was really annoyed with the crappy encoders and I also wasn't totally satisfied with the sound. I really liked it for poly sounds and weird stuff, but not so much for bass/mono sounds. But I kind of miss it now, maybe i'll buy it again some time in the future (the pot edition off course). Or maybe i'll just save up for a Prophet 5 or an Andromeda :P

I have some recordings of both synths, I can upload the sounds if you're interested..

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Re: MS2000 vs Prophet 08

Post by Arddhu » Tue Dec 28, 2010 1:28 pm

Cool!
I'd be quite interested to hear some demo's if it's not too much hassle for you. Sounds tres exciting.

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Re: MS2000 vs Prophet 08

Post by projectwoofer » Tue Dec 28, 2010 11:14 pm

I have played a lot with a MS2000 (we had one at the music school I teach), and I own a Tetra (similar to the P08)...

I hate the MS2000 sound...sounds super thin, cold, digital and lifeless...

I love my Tetra...whoever says it doesn't sound good, seriously need to learn some programming tips...

Bottom line: Get the Prophet!
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Re: MS2000 vs Prophet 08

Post by Belaya » Wed Dec 29, 2010 12:13 am

Arddhu wrote:Cool!
I'd be quite interested to hear some demo's if it's not too much hassle for you.
au contraire :)

i just have to gather the bits'n'pieces from my past projects and arrange it into something presentable... I'm quite busy this week, so let's say after the new year's eve, when we sober up :mrgreen:

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Re: MS2000 vs Prophet 08

Post by Stab Frenzy » Wed Dec 29, 2010 2:26 pm

projectwoofer wrote:I hate the MS2000 sound...sounds super thin, cold, digital and lifeless...

I love my Tetra...whoever says it doesn't sound good, seriously need to learn some programming tips...
I'd say you need to learn some programming tips for the MS2000.

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Re: MS2000 vs Prophet 08

Post by cartesia » Thu Dec 30, 2010 5:02 pm

There's a really really great MS2000 demo video on youtube.. the exact opposite of cold and lifeless!

unfortunately I can't find it right now ><

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Re: MS2000 vs Prophet 08

Post by projectwoofer » Thu Dec 30, 2010 7:21 pm

Stab Frenzy wrote:
projectwoofer wrote:I hate the MS2000 sound...sounds super thin, cold, digital and lifeless...

I love my Tetra...whoever says it doesn't sound good, seriously need to learn some programming tips...
I'd say you need to learn some programming tips for the MS2000.
Really? Well thank you for being so rude...

The basic sound of the MS2000 is c**p my friend and you can't do ANYTHING to change that...
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Re: MS2000 vs Prophet 08

Post by cartesia » Fri Dec 31, 2010 1:34 am

OP, Here are some demos of the MS2000.. kind of crazy-out-there demo rather than 'normal' sounds




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