OR replace it with a CZ-1

seamonkey wrote:I nominate this for STUPIDEST THREAD ever in the history of the internez.
Pro5 wrote:Replace with CZ-1 Of course!!!!!!! it's a great synth much better than (esp) DX21 and (a bit) CZ1000
The velocity and extra poly etc make the CZ-1 the best of the CZs by far. Rare though!!
seamonkey wrote:I nominate this for STUPIDEST THREAD ever in the history of the internez.
To be fair, I don't know a lot about the DX line...I'm still one of the uninitiated when it comes to Yamaha's FM synthesis. I do like the CZ line, not really because it sounds "analog" but I suppose because it's more intuitive. It can do a lot of sounds I'm looking for. Also the CZ-101 has a great form factor (DX-100 notwithstanding), and they can all layer two patches together. I still want one and I regret liquidating the one I had. There's one monster patch I made that I have yet to recreate with anything else--half Microkorg and half 101--ever since that I've wanted it back.8bit9bot wrote:i love the DX21 - it was my first synth back in 1987... my uncle gave it to my dad - i was just 4 years old but it was a great introduction to synths - i DEFINITELY PREFER IT to the CZ line
first off... it can do sounds the DX7 cannot even do... you can literally port sega genesis patches to it - some of the presets are familiar from genesis games - if you like the sounds from final fight, street fighter, and countless other arcade game you've come to the right place (same YM2151 soundchip!) - it's really an awesome machine - i gig with it... i don't really consider it part of my synth setup because i use it for chiptunes and not "vintage synth" tunes
the CZ line is ok... very toy-like... better for learning subtractive synthesis but the sound is just so boring... if your arguement for liking the CZ over the DX line is "it's more analog-like" then i say any budget analog synth will blow the CZ line out of the water - even a Yamaha CS-01 (which is literally a toy)
seamonkey wrote:I nominate this for STUPIDEST THREAD ever in the history of the internez.
v50 in performance mode kills the dx7. if you weren't layering voices in performance mode, you were only dabbling with the v50.commodorejohn wrote:The DX7 is far and away the best of Yamaha's FM synths (at least the pure FM ones, I've heard a lot of people rave about the SY77/99.) It's far more flexible than any of the 4-op FM synths in every regard. ... I just plain stopped using my V50 altogether when I got a DX7.
i agree. the DXi app for iOS is the best place to start. you can kinda see how your tweaks affect the sound.you might find it easier (and you'll certainly find it cheaper) to start with a simple 4-op synth.