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Jupiter 6 Vs Proph 08

Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2014 8:42 pm
by TaylorBart
I have a line on a really reasonably priced Jupiter 6. I am pretty unhappy with my Proph 08.
It's lackluster in my humble opinion. I love the way it's laid out but I just don't think it really delivers.
I have played a Jupiter 8 for a few moments in a shop and liked it, but never a 6.
I love all the Demos I have watched on youtube.
Any opinions? Should I sell the Proph 08 and get the JP6 or should I sell the Proph 08 and get a more inexpensive Poly and some effects.

thanks

Re: Jupiter 6 Vs Proph 08

Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2014 9:58 pm
by Rezisehtnys
Well if the Jupiter 6 is a good price I say go for it, if you don't like it you could probably make money off it to go towards plan B.

Re: Jupiter 6 Vs Proph 08

Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2014 10:27 pm
by commodorejohn
Yeah, anything classic Roland you should at least get your money back on if you don't like it - and from what I've heard of the JP-6, it's a very nice synth.

Re: Jupiter 6 Vs Proph 08

Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2014 10:48 pm
by TaylorBart
Rezisehtnys wrote:Well if the Jupiter 6 is a good price I say go for it, if you don't like it you could probably make money off it to go towards plan B.
commodorejohn wrote:Yeah, anything classic Roland you should at least get your money back on if you don't like it - and from what I've heard of the JP-6, it's a very nice synth.

Thanks!

Re: Jupiter 6 Vs Proph 08

Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2014 1:27 am
by georgemarauder
Why do you consider the Prophet lackluster? It seems like a very capable synth to me. Have you really dug into it's editing capacity and learned how to get the most out of it?

I just don't see going from that to a Jupiter 6 as being an upgrade. The Jupiter is sexy because it's retro, but you have more capabilities with the Prophet, IMO.

Re: Jupiter 6 Vs Proph 08

Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2014 1:37 am
by commodorejohn
georgemarauder wrote:Why do you consider the Prophet lackluster? It seems like a very capable synth to me. Have you really dug into it's editing capacity and learned how to get the most out of it?

I just don't see going from that to a Jupiter 6 as being an upgrade. The Jupiter is sexy because it's retro, but you have more capabilities with the Prophet, IMO.
I have no familiarity with the Prophet, but remember that capabilities != sound. I've used a number of synths that had perfectly decent tech specs but didn't do anything for me sound-wise - I assume the OP feels similarly about the Prophet.

Re: Jupiter 6 Vs Proph 08

Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2014 1:44 am
by tomorrowstops
The Prophet '08 is certainly 'more capable,' but the JP6 sounds more unique. At least to these ears!

Re: Jupiter 6 Vs Proph 08

Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2014 6:31 am
by TaylorBart
commodorejohn wrote:
georgemarauder wrote:Why do you consider the Prophet lackluster? It seems like a very capable synth to me. Have you really dug into it's editing capacity and learned how to get the most out of it?

I just don't see going from that to a Jupiter 6 as being an upgrade. The Jupiter is sexy because it's retro, but you have more capabilities with the Prophet, IMO.
I have no familiarity with the Prophet, but remember that capabilities != sound. I've used a number of synths that had perfectly decent tech specs but didn't do anything for me sound-wise - I assume the OP feels similarly about the Prophet.

Exactly. It has plenty of specs. I have dug deeply into it the past few years I have had it. It's not a user error thing.
It just doesn't own it's place in a mix.

Here is the best way to explain it. You go to guitar center and you buy a decent american made telecaster. sure it sounds great but you get a great vintage tele and it is just a light saber in a mix.
I found that my band mates juno 60 although an incredibly boring synth specs wise, just sounds like a record. and it sits in a mix very gracefully. Just the raw oscillators are uninspiring compared to many synths I have owned.

Re: Jupiter 6 Vs Proph 08

Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2014 9:30 am
by zoomtheline
My theory is that if you initialise a patch or just set it to just raw oscillator and you like the sound and you can happily play the synth at that point then it's a synth for you, soundwise. If that stage on a synth sounds poor to you and you have to dive real deep to find a good sound then it's maybe not right for you. I got rid a my mopho and radias because of this even though they were great once you spent time with them. I just wasn't inspired to even turn them on eventually because I knew the inspiration was too far away inside.

Re: Jupiter 6 Vs Proph 08

Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2014 10:53 am
by HideawayStudio
JP6 any day of the year - real VCOs for a start!

Re: Jupiter 6 Vs Proph 08

Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2014 2:02 pm
by philip
+1 for Jupiter 6

Re: Jupiter 6 Vs Proph 08

Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2014 2:26 pm
by stf-ran
I've played and had access to both of these synths over the years(owned neither). The JP-6 has a certain sweetness to the sound that's hard to put your finger on. JP-6 +1. Though, the Prophet isn't a bad synth at all. If you were gigging, I'd probably go with the newer synth.

Re: Jupiter 6 Vs Proph 08

Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2014 6:51 pm
by meatballfulton
TaylorBart wrote:I found that my band mates juno 60 although an incredibly boring synth specs wise, just sounds like a record.
Tail wagging the dog. An instrument that's been used on lots of records of course sounds like a record ;)

You certainly don't need to ask us whether you should get a JP6, seems to me you have already decided. You'll only get two answers anyway, do it or don't do it.

Re: Jupiter 6 Vs Proph 08

Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2014 8:52 pm
by Casshern
A Prophet 600 with a P600FW kit installed, will dance circles around a Prophet 08.
As for comparing against a Jupiter 6, that becomes very subjective.
The Prophet 600 at that point sounds more "raw", whilst the Jupiter 600 (even with Europa mod) is more like "butter."

Re: Jupiter 6 Vs Proph 08

Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2014 4:42 am
by 8bit9bot
i have not owned or used a jupiter 6 but i have had an mks-80... it was a rev5 so maybe this is a stretch... but i dont think the jupiter-6 and mks-80 are very good as a "last synth you will ever need" - if you get the jup6 you will probably want something else later... especially if you like stuff that has strong resonance... the jup6/mks80 have a mellow resonance sound... similar to the alpha junos - if you compare to any american CEM machine... even the new DSI stuff... its no where in the same ball park - that being said.. the MKS-80 had some of the nicest strings and unison bass (without reso) ever - didn't think it rocked brass very well - hope this helps