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Analog Rytm vs Machinedrum

PostPosted: Sun Sep 28, 2014 7:28 am
by Kidney05
Curious about these two versus eachother. Was intent on a RYTM for a while but now I'm thinking an Mk2 UW might be better to start with, mainly because of how many more machines it has, so you get a greater variety analog at the sacrifice of analog and the drum pads. The Rytm will have that amazing iPad app that'll work with it as well. I'm expecting many MachineDrum votes...

Re: Analog Rytm vs Machinedrum

PostPosted: Sun Sep 28, 2014 10:35 am
by Stab Frenzy
Personally I like the sound and the interface of the AR much more than the MD. The MD has more machines, but none of them sound as musical as the AR to my ears.

Regarding interface, I think Elektron learned a lot in the 10+ years between designing the MD and the AR and that really shows in how you interact with them. Scrolling around on the wheel to pick your track on the MD seems like craziness after using the AR.

Re: Analog Rytm vs Machinedrum

PostPosted: Sun Sep 28, 2014 3:53 pm
by Kidney05
Ok, great! Thanks for the info. I've heard a crazy amount of praise for the MD but not as much for the rytm but it's probably just that people don't have them yet. Makes me wonder if they'll ever do a new machinedrum with the newer interface. I'm not really sure what elektron could do next, they've covered almost all their bases.

Re: Analog Rytm vs Machinedrum

PostPosted: Mon Sep 29, 2014 6:57 am
by GuyaGuy
Analog Rytm for TEH ANALOGZ! and simple samples. MD UW for mangling. I wrote a review of the Rytm for VSE. If they ever getting around to publishing it you can read my praise for the Rytm. But yeah...it's only available directly through Elektron for USers so there probably aren't many using it yet.

Re: Analog Rytm vs Machinedrum

PostPosted: Mon Sep 29, 2014 11:05 am
by zoomtheline
A mate brought the Rytm round for some advice on how to use it. It was his first Elektron machine and was stuck on navigating around so I showed him how to go about it. I must admit it left me cold when I was working it out for myself. Things just did not feel fluid or intuitive. Some elements were brilliant and I wish the MD had them implemented but it just seemed quite limited soundwise and not all that. It sounding big and round as you'd expect analogue to sound but I felt that the sounds didn't allow you to go many places unless typical analogue drum sounds are your thing.
The MD is as deep as you want to make it. As a normal drum machine it's good but the initial machine sounds are pretty uninspiring so I'd say the MD is for someone who wants to make more quirky drums/beats and likes mangling.

I'd go with the MD all day long as I like to create odd or not your run of the mill stuff. If you like that analogue sound and big round hits then go for the Rytm. Of course you can get bonkers with the rytm as you can any elektron machine but to me it didn't seem to excel at the style I do.

Re: Analog Rytm vs Machinedrum

PostPosted: Mon Sep 29, 2014 10:25 pm
by Rusty O'Hara
Stab Frenzy wrote:Scrolling around on the wheel to pick your track on the MD seems like craziness after using the AR.


[Function] + [Step nn] is your friend.

Re: Analog Rytm vs Machinedrum

PostPosted: Tue Sep 30, 2014 11:06 am
by zoomtheline
Yep, was a revelation that one ha.

Re: Analog Rytm vs Machinedrum

PostPosted: Tue Sep 30, 2014 11:47 am
by Stab Frenzy
Rusty O'Hara wrote:
Stab Frenzy wrote:Scrolling around on the wheel to pick your track on the MD seems like craziness after using the AR.


[Function] + [Step nn] is your friend.

Ah ha, I didn't get a good read of the manual before I had a play with one, thanks for the tip. :)

Re: Analog Rytm vs Machinedrum

PostPosted: Tue Sep 30, 2014 1:58 pm
by phesago
Yeah the rotary dial is for scrubs :lol:

The cool thing about the md us being able to layer sounds and get different results since you have 16 voices. Granted you can kind of do the same thing with the rhythm, but with less. If you use the ram recorded for internal sounds, you can see where the layering can potential lead to good results, but there's a setup work involved. If you have both you can do some wild s**t i guess >:3

Re: Analog Rytm vs Machinedrum

PostPosted: Mon Oct 13, 2014 11:24 am
by zoomtheline
Also, the Ctrl al tricks on the MD are really individual and give drastically different results to performance modes.