Tom Oberheim 2 Voice Pro (new) vs. Oberheim 2 Voice (old)

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Tom Oberheim 2 Voice Pro (new) vs. Oberheim 2 Voice (old)

Postby wheatfield » Thu Nov 20, 2014 6:07 pm

I have two questions:

1) Is the new Tom Oberheim 2 Voice Pro a recommended equal replacement to the old Oberheim 2 Voice? Any notable deficiencies? I've been repeatedly burned with new "analog" synths that just don't touch the beauty of the old Oberheims in particular, but I figure Tom himself knows what he's doing and the hardware on the new stuff is probably extremely good.

2) Seeing that the Son of 4 Voice won't be coming out anytime soon, does anyone have experience perhaps attaching the new 2 Voice Pro with two of the new SEM pro units to create a 4 voice piece? I am not great with this type of thing but I figure it's worth looking into.
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Re: Tom Oberheim 2 Voice Pro (new) vs. Oberheim 2 Voice (old

Postby wheatfield » Thu Nov 20, 2014 7:04 pm

Regarding the second question, apparently the answer is "no". From Tom Oberheim:

"The Two Voice is not set up so that having two SEMs makes it a 4 voice. With 2 SEMs driven by the Two Voice it would still be a 2 voice machine except each "voice" would be a SEM inside the Two Voice and an SEM external."

So looks like I will need to wait for the Son of 4 Voice to have a four voice SEM unit.
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Re: Tom Oberheim 2 Voice Pro (new) vs. Oberheim 2 Voice (old

Postby Sir Ruff » Thu Nov 20, 2014 7:49 pm

wheatfield wrote:So looks like I will need to wait for the Son of 4 Voice to have a four voice SEM unit.


Don't bother, it's never going to happen. You'd be better off buying 4 single SEMs and the Mutable midipal or some other midi router.

As far as sonics, the TO SEM is by far the closest "clone" to the originals. It's a tad sharper in the upper end, lacking some of that mid-range phasiness, and capable of more resonance, but basically identical (or at least 90+% of the way there). Not like the Voyager vs. the minimoog, for example.
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Re: Tom Oberheim 2 Voice Pro (new) vs. Oberheim 2 Voice (old

Postby wheatfield » Thu Nov 20, 2014 8:10 pm

Sir Ruff wrote:
wheatfield wrote:So looks like I will need to wait for the Son of 4 Voice to have a four voice SEM unit.


Don't bother, it's never going to happen. You'd be better off buying 4 single SEMs and the Mutable midipal or some other midi router.


Four single SEM Pros will allow four voices but the 2 Voice + 2 SEMs won't? You're probably right but I don't get the details of it.

Either way it's too bad about the Son of 4 Voice, if you're right. Tom has said he will know by early 2015 if he will resume working on it. I guess he's getting to the point that he's too old to be working on projects like that.
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Re: Tom Oberheim 2 Voice Pro (new) vs. Oberheim 2 Voice (old

Postby Sir Ruff » Thu Nov 20, 2014 9:49 pm

I assume Tom means that you can't drive two additional SEMs from the two-voice as separate voices, whereas you could control any number of SEMs from an external midi controller (even a two-voice plus two SEMs).

don't get me wrong, I'd love for the 4-voice to appear, but I think this two-voice endeavor took more effort than he expected, and yeah, he's at a point where it may not be worth it to him to complete. He was in the zone a fee years ago, but the. Programming issues derailed the project and he's never regained the necessary momentum to finish.
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Re: Tom Oberheim 2 Voice Pro (new) vs. Oberheim 2 Voice (old

Postby Bitexion » Thu Nov 20, 2014 11:21 pm

The 4/8 voice controller was basically just a fancy CV converter. Now you don't need a huge console like that to control lots of SEMs at once, just hook up 16 of the the buggers to a midi keyboard and there voila, oberheim 16-voice
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Re: Tom Oberheim 2 Voice Pro (new) vs. Oberheim 2 Voice (old

Postby ppg_wavecomputer » Fri Nov 21, 2014 12:08 am

Sir Ruff wrote: [...] As far as sonics, the TO SEM is by far the closest "clone" to the originals. It's a tad sharper in the upper end, lacking some of that mid-range phasiness, and capable of more resonance, but basically identical (or at least 90+% of the way there). Not like the Voyager vs. the minimoog, for example.


This is some point I've read a couple of times, but... I beg to differ. How many of us actually had the chance to play and hear a sparkling new original SEM (or Two Voice, or Four Voice, or Eight Voice) when it left the Oberheim factory in 1975? How would one of *these* SEMs compare with a new TO SEM? And how will a new TO SEM from 2012 sound in nearly forty years from now?

Get Doc Brown's time machine and find out.

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Re: Tom Oberheim 2 Voice Pro (new) vs. Oberheim 2 Voice (old

Postby Bitexion » Fri Nov 21, 2014 12:10 am

There are some ridiculously cool youtube vids of some guy's original 8-voice..think i've seen them posted here before.
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