mpc1000 vs mpc200/2000xl

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mpc1000 vs mpc200/2000xl

Post by nuketifromorbit » Wed Jan 21, 2015 7:30 pm

I'm a bit torn about which model to buy. I'm aware that the 2nd generation/black versions of the 1000 lack the shoddy pads of the earlier blue versions, but I'm wondering if the 2000 series still beats the second generation 1000 models in terms of durability and build quality? While the usb and flash memory capabilities of the 1000 are appealing, I'm not sure I need a lot of sample memory, since I'll primarily be sampling drums and short snippets of audio. I also like the larger form factor of the 2000 series and I'm curious if the work flow is a bit more user friendly as a result? I don't plan on doing a lot of complex sample manipulation and just want a good drum machine/midi sequencer.

*edit to summarize which unit wins out in terms of ease of use, build quality, and durability?
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Re: mpc1000 vs mpc200/2000xl

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Re: mpc1000 vs mpc200/2000xl

Post by plus321 » Thu Jan 22, 2015 6:50 pm

I think the 1000 is easier to use. I like the CF card. I didn't like on the 2000 that you sometimes need to click 'open window' to get to a parameter. It was almost like things were hidden.

The build quality of the 2000 is not that good. I would say they are about equal. Displays die on the 2000 and they cost almost as much as a machine now.

You could consider a 2500 if you want something bigger.

Also, not all black 1000s have good pads.

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Re: mpc1000 vs mpc200/2000xl

Post by Stab Frenzy » Fri Jan 23, 2015 12:50 am

2500 or 4000 are the good modern (ie not 60 or 3000) MPCs. 2500 is basically a 1000 done properly. Had both, 2500 with JJOS is my choice. I think I bought my 2500 for the same amount I sold my 1000 for as well.

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Re: mpc1000 vs mpc200/2000xl

Post by wiss » Fri Jan 23, 2015 1:19 am

I don't know if it matters to you but the 2500 has the same midi clock as the 2000xl.
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Re: mpc1000 vs mpc200/2000xl

Post by nuketifromorbit » Fri Jan 23, 2015 6:58 am

Christ, honestly I've decided to just stick with my guns. I've got a pretty good thing going with my mmt-8 and akai s20. Thanks for the info though.
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Re: mpc1000 vs mpc200/2000xl

Post by ninja6485 » Sat Jan 24, 2015 6:42 pm

This looks like a psychotropic reaction. No wonder it's so popular...

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Re: mpc1000 vs mpc200/2000xl

Post by sequentialsoftshock » Sun Jan 25, 2015 3:49 am

ninja6485 wrote:
I had totally forgotten that you're also a bit of a metal head. :guitar:
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Re: mpc1000 vs mpc200/2000xl

Post by ninja6485 » Mon Jan 26, 2015 11:10 pm

sequentialsoftshock wrote:
ninja6485 wrote:
I had totally forgotten that you're also a bit of a metal head. :guitar:
h**l yea S :headbang: My interests extend well beyond that as well, but it's in my blood. In the distant past, I used to spend all of my time after school shredding on a cheap BC Rich, and traveling far and wide to record shops (this was before they all went belly up) hunting for obscure metal albums. My uncle was in bands all through the 80's, and used to give me a heads up on metal bands & guitar techniques every time I would visit growing up. I used to try all of his marshalls, the mesa boogie, some rare guitars, etc. Wore band shirts every day. I actually still own two marshal stacks, one tube and a hybrid, and a hand full of guitars/ a borrowed bass.

Saw most of the classic acts - Dio a few times, including some of the last shows before he died, on his own and with Sabbath, Judas priest with and without Halford, Sabbath with Halford singing, Queensryche when they were still a band, Opeth several times, Dying Fetus, got stood up by W.A.S.P, and the list goes on! Missed the chance to see Death live before chuck died, which is a shame. A lot of the metal I listen to these days is black metal, or Destoyer 666. Still a fan of the first wave of Norwegians, although I've been known to get down to a little Paysage d'hiver.

As an aside: No one in the metal scene seems to know the difference between what a drum machine is, what a sampler (like an mpc) is, and what is just drum samples arraigned in a DAW. Everything that's not live drums gets called a drum machine... :?
This looks like a psychotropic reaction. No wonder it's so popular...

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Re: mpc1000 vs mpc200/2000xl

Post by nuketifromorbit » Fri Feb 27, 2015 5:59 pm

Said ef it and picked up a mpc2000xl. I paid a bit too much for it, but its in damn good condition, with a pristine lcd screen. I haven't even had to peak at the manual yet. I guess all those years I spent with its sibling the s2000 paid off.
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Re: mpc1000 vs mpc200/2000xl

Post by ninja6485 » Sat Feb 28, 2015 1:03 am

I would be very interested in a comparison between the two... Is the 2000xl basically just an s2000 with pads?
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Re: mpc1000 vs mpc200/2000xl

Post by nuketifromorbit » Tue Mar 03, 2015 5:29 pm

ninja6485 wrote:I would be very interested in a comparison between the two... Is the 2000xl basically just an s2000 with pads?
Sound wise maybe. The 2000xl doesn't do chromatic obviously, and the s2000 has a much smaller screen so the menu layout is a bit different. What I should have said is that I've always found akais menu structure to be logically laid out in a ladder like fashion. While its at times slightly tedious, I can at least wrap my head around it, unlike my experiences with Emu's samplers.
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Re: mpc1000 vs mpc200/2000xl

Post by ninja6485 » Thu Mar 05, 2015 3:29 am

Ok, I think I understand! Emu samplers can be a pain in the a*s. My main "balls out" sampler is an Emu right now, and the main thing that gets me is not being able to save individual programs or samples. You have to save the whole bank. I've found adopting a new way of working to be helpful: I clear the machine, make my break program for instance, save it, and then clear the machine to work on the bass. Or work on it all together, save 2 times, and then delete and rename accordingly. Otherwise, the architecture is pretty similar, but having one with a full display will make the OS a lot more intelligible. An ESI is extremely confusing at first, but a few hours on an E6400 Ultra would probably be more enlightening than hunkering down with the ESI manual! The other thing I like better about the Akais are the effects integration. You can add a little of A, or a little of B to each program, and adjust them accordingly. With the Emu, you add the effects to the output groups, so you can only have 4 wet/ dry combinations of A & B. So if you have 8 - 16 programs, they have to share effects settings, which prevents you from using its internal reverbs as mixing reverbs without printing individual reverb tracks from the internal resampling, and layering ghat over the part as a separate sample.
This looks like a psychotropic reaction. No wonder it's so popular...

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