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Korg Volca Sample (vs.) Korg Electribe ES-1

PostPosted: Mon May 11, 2015 3:27 am
by priima
All I really want to do is:
• sequence custom drum kits (and some vintage kits)
• loop song sections for live gigs

Does the electribe allow loops longer than 4 bars? How much can be stored on the ES-1 internal memory in comparison to the Volca? How are the "SmartMedia" cards? What advantages does the ESX have over the ES-1? Can the electribe sequence external midi? (shooting for under $250, which is why the ESX isn't one of the main contenders).

Thanke~

Re: Korg Volca Sample (vs.) Korg Electribe ES-1

PostPosted: Mon May 11, 2015 4:29 am
by sequentialsoftshock
I think you will be best off with the ES1. The Volca Sample is great, but it isn't really great for building. It can only store 10 sequences of 16 steps each and 6 songs, which can be up to 16 bars, but they have to be bars made up of the 10 patterns in memory.

Sending MIDI is also rather difficult as each of the 10 sounds available are in separate MIDI channels. Soundwise, you won't get much better than spending 800 or more on an MPC60 or SP12.

Re: Korg Volca Sample (vs.) Korg Electribe ES-1

PostPosted: Mon May 11, 2015 5:00 am
by stich
I have the ES-1. The SmartMedia cards require a little reader so you can hook it up to your PC via USB, but otherwise they are just like any flash media. Not the best standard, of course and out of date.

Re: Korg Volca Sample (vs.) Korg Electribe ES-1

PostPosted: Mon May 11, 2015 3:13 pm
by priima
I wonder if something like this would read properly in the electribe:
http://www.kmart.com/link-depot-adapter ... ckType=G16

Anyone tried something like this? Maybe it'd just be easier to get a usb adapter...

I have heard in the past that the ES-1 lessens the low-end of the imported samples? Is this true? Sound like bullshit to me..

Re: Korg Volca Sample (vs.) Korg Electribe ES-1

PostPosted: Mon May 11, 2015 6:50 pm
by sequentialsoftshock
priima wrote:I have heard in the past that the ES-1 lessens the low-end of the imported samples? Is this true? Sound like bullshit to me..


It probably is.

Re: Korg Volca Sample (vs.) Korg Electribe ES-1

PostPosted: Mon May 11, 2015 7:05 pm
by priima
sequentialsoftshock wrote:
priima wrote:I have heard in the past that the ES-1 lessens the low-end of the imported samples? Is this true? Sound like bullshit to me..


It probably is.


Probably is bullshit? Or probably is true? :oops:

Re: Korg Volca Sample (vs.) Korg Electribe ES-1

PostPosted: Mon May 11, 2015 8:52 pm
by Jabberwalky
It does nothing to the low end if you bring the samples in from the card. They are 32khz, so the high end is what you're losing. One minor thing to look out for. Windows 8 and those smartmedia readers don't like to work together. I've tried a couple and Win8 doesn't detect them. Could be just my PC, who knows.

Re: Korg Volca Sample (vs.) Korg Electribe ES-1

PostPosted: Mon May 11, 2015 9:34 pm
by priima
Jabberwalky wrote:It does nothing to the low end if you bring the samples in from the card. They are 32khz, so the high end is what you're losing. One minor thing to look out for. Windows 8 and those smartmedia readers don't like to work together. I've tried a couple and Win8 doesn't detect them. Could be just my PC, who knows.

Sweet. High-end isnt as much of an issue for me, i'm in to lo fi sounds. As for the computer problem, i've always been a mac user so I imagine the SmartMedia is compatible. Is the newer lcd on the ESX a huge difference? That might be the only advantage I am attracted to on the ESX. I actually think the original ES-1 is more physically attractive than both the MKII and the ESX.

Re: Korg Volca Sample (vs.) Korg Electribe ES-1

PostPosted: Thu May 04, 2017 9:51 pm
by Tray
Old thread, but worthy of mention:

I cannot confirm whether Windows 8 has issues with SmartMedia readers, but I can say definitely that Windows 10 works PERFECTLY with my "Dazzle 14-in-1 USB 2.0" card reader (including SmartMedia). Worth noting is that unlike other cards, SmartMedia can EASILY be inserted upside down, which of course makes it unreadable.

I also find that inserting the SmartMedia card into the reader first then plugging in the reader via USB seems to work best. (Also always attempt a eject/safe remove of the drive before unplugging).

Lastly, it is very well known that formatting a SmartMedia card on a PC (of any OS) will likely mess up the card. Always format the card in the ES-1 (or whatever device you use). BTW, The above is true of almost all removable media (SD, compactFlash, etc):

ALWAYS, ALWAYS, ALWAYS FORMAT THE CARD VIA THE DEVICE IT IS TO BE USED ON...EVEN IF IT CAME PREFORMATTED FROM THE MANUFACTURER.

(Uppercase intentional to drive the point home...sorry for yelling ;-) )

Hope this helps!

Re: Korg Volca Sample (vs.) Korg Electribe ES-1

PostPosted: Tue Jan 16, 2018 5:34 pm
by moog-lover
I had both.

I wonder why, in these days, we only have one "modern" choice in this range of sequencers.
Volca Sample is 32hz, its transfer speed is like modem times, and memory is super limited.

I wonder why it isn't feasible to build a similar Volca Sample (design and size), but a bit more powerful inside. with SD card, USB and software to import/export samples, sync with DAW.

I've thinking this since 2011. At that time, I sent an email to Korg and Zoom, and they've replied that drum machine market was shrinking.

Re: Korg Volca Sample (vs.) Korg Electribe ES-1

PostPosted: Tue Jan 16, 2018 6:05 pm
by Ashe37
moog-lover wrote:I had both.

I wonder why, in these days, we only have one "modern" choice in this range of sequencers.
Volca Sample is 32hz, its transfer speed is like modem times, and memory is super limited.

I wonder why it isn't feasible to build a similar Volca Sample (design and size), but a bit more powerful inside. with SD card, USB and software to import/export samples, sync with DAW.

I've thinking this since 2011. At that time, I sent an email to Korg and Zoom, and they've replied that drum machine market was shrinking.


They did, It is called an 'electribe sampler'.

Re: Korg Volca Sample (vs.) Korg Electribe ES-1

PostPosted: Tue Jan 16, 2018 6:49 pm
by moog-lover
I was thinking about a xox style sequencer, but this mixes both mpc and tr lovers. yes, I forgot that!