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Postby Hossinfeffa » Fri Jul 18, 2008 12:05 am

Bah towards the title.

Anyways, I'm looking for a drum machine that sounds similar or close to the TR-808. For a while I was going for the TR-606, but after listening more to it and playing around with samples, it's not the sound I'm looking for. I know you can mod the 606 to make it sound more 808ish and versatile, but would not like a mod.

I was considering a Korg ER-1.. but the demo's I heard didn't really make me want it. Probably because most people use them for creating more electro styles. I have a feeling it could get in the 808 range though.

Then there's the JoMoX 888. I really like this, but it is fairly pricey. Is there anything cheaper that can still create these sounds? I'm not a person that needs all sorts of features. Just something that is basically a TR-808 soundwise and able to be programmed simply. Software I would like to stay away from, I personally just prefer the feeling of hardware.

If there really isn't anything else, the 888 seems like a fine match, but would like to know what else is out there. Price range from $400-$1500.
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Postby space6oy » Fri Jul 18, 2008 12:17 am

if you're into the 888 but don't like the price, try to find an xbase 09. they do have huge booming analog kicks.
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Postby Jack Spider » Fri Jul 18, 2008 12:17 am

How about the MFB-502e 'Drumcomputer'? There's a demo on the page:

http://www.mfberlin.de/Produkte/Musikel ... -502e.html
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Postby Hossinfeffa » Fri Jul 18, 2008 12:33 am

Jack Spider wrote:How about the MFB-502e 'Drumcomputer'? There's a demo on the page:

http://www.mfberlin.de/Produkte/Musikel ... -502e.html


I'm really liking that. It has a great tone to it. Do you know how well the construction is? The design catches me by surprise, but I like it. For the price of it, it sounds well worth it.

I'm not that great with MIDI yet, but it says it only has MIDI in. Would I still be able to use the machine to trigger an external synth, or will the synth have to trigger the drum machine?

http://youtube.com/watch?v=fkRtJKZFxXY great little example of it I found.
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Postby JSRockit » Fri Jul 18, 2008 1:12 am

Make sure you read the 502's manual to see how you program it before buying it. The 503 is much nicer in my opinion, but more 909 than 808. I would avoid the ER-1 completely... it is ok as a percussion / noise box, but not as a boom / snap box. The 888 is the closest. However, if you want a real 808...get a real 808. The 606 is nice though. It's just different.

Don't forget the XBase09 and the MBase01.
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Postby otto » Fri Jul 18, 2008 2:00 am

You could always go the drum machine sampler route and use 808 samples. An ES-1 is a sampler with x0x sequencing.
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Postby wiss » Fri Jul 18, 2008 2:56 am

the 502, 503, or Kult..by MFB I would say would be the best choice if you want built in sequencing.
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Postby Z » Fri Jul 18, 2008 3:32 am

Novation DrumStation for sounds and Roland TR-626 to trigger it with. Like getting an 808 & 909 for around $400 ($300 for DrumStation, $100 for 626 - you can probably get them cheaper if you look hard enough).
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Postby Hossinfeffa » Fri Jul 18, 2008 7:34 am

Thanks for all the responses. I'm taking them all into consideration.

Read the manual on the 502 and it seems fine for me. I would get a real 808 if I had the money. I think they're currently over my range? When I checked they seemed around $2000. Also, if I got an actual 808, would I have to get a MIDI mod to sync it to my Andromeda? I know my Juno-6 would be fine, but so far I've only tried syncing the A6 through MIDI. (Since I've had it.)

The sampler route and the Novation seem tempting as well.

If I decide to go with MFB, what is there to know about international shipping? I don't know anything about the charges you incur and if you send them the exact currency or rounded American dollars. Plus.. after all of that it might end up costing a lot more than expected.
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Postby wiss » Fri Jul 18, 2008 7:55 am

Hossinfeffa wrote:If I decide to go with MFB, what is there to know about international shipping? .
you can buy thru dealers in the states
http://www.analoguehaven.com/mfb/
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Postby Hossinfeffa » Fri Jul 18, 2008 8:07 am

wiss wrote:you can buy thru dealers in the states
http://www.analoguehaven.com/mfb/


That's great. I was checking on the MFB site and saw it said retailers, but thought it was only European retailers. What's interesting is it's cheaper to buy in the US than in Europe. $265 here and about $308 just to buy it there, despite it being made in Germany?

Thanks, Wiss. :)
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Postby kuroichi » Fri Jul 18, 2008 10:48 am

Id say your best bet is a Roland R8 with the 808 sound card, theyre cheap and sound excellent.

Theyre also capable of getting very complex if you want to.

You could go for a sequencer and vermona combo, but it may not sound right for you.

Most of the new machines lean more towards 909, especially for the kick.

Oh and everythings usually cheaper in america cause they always end up ripping us off with tax. :(
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Postby ramos » Fri Jul 18, 2008 1:32 pm

For $1500 dollars you can get an 808. why try and get something that sounds similar when you can afford the real thing? you wont regret it.
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Postby Z » Fri Jul 18, 2008 2:08 pm

Hossinfeffa wrote:Also, if I got an actual 808, would I have to get a MIDI mod to sync it to my Andromeda? I know my Juno-6 would be fine, but so far I've only tried syncing the A6 through MIDI. (Since I've had it.)


Before getting the Kenton MIDI kit installed in my 808, I used to use a Roland MSQ-700 sequecer to sync the 808 to MIDI. These days you have many choices for DIN sync to MIDI converters. There's a company that sells small boxes on eBay for under $100.
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Postby th0mas » Fri Jul 18, 2008 2:38 pm

otto wrote:You could always go the drum machine sampler route and use 808 samples. An ES-1 is a sampler with x0x sequencing.


I would suggest if you go this route to get a used mpc-1000 instead of the es-1. Having owned both, it's easy to make the mpc1000 go BOOOM with some freely available 808 samples.. when I tried it on my es-1 the result was more like 'bzzzt * fizzle *".
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