I'm looking to buy an old analog synth to supplement my Nord

A forum for discussing the pros & cons of buying a particular synth and for advice on buying synthesizers.

I'm looking to buy an old analog synth to supplement my Nord

Postby stropko » Thu Jul 24, 2008 10:10 pm

I have a Nord Electro 2, and I'm looking for something to reproduce those old synth sounds. I need some sort of polyphony (though 4 voices should be fine). I think the Korg Mono/Poly looks like a good choice..what do you think?
stropko
Newbie
Newbie
 
Posts: 21
Joined: Thu Jul 24, 2008 9:58 pm

Re: I'm looking to buy an old analog synth to supplement my

Postby JMP » Thu Jul 24, 2008 11:21 pm

If you want polyphony forget the Mono/poly, it's too restrictive in that department but is h**l of a mono and so gives good bass/leads.

If you wanting to play pads, four voices are too few as the release will only cut out when you change chords. Six is an absolute minimum, eight preferable.

Maybe more specific in 'those old synth sounds' you're looking for. Also, whats your budget? This will narrow down your options dramatically.
JMP
Supporting Member!
Supporting Member!
 
Posts: 883
Joined: Thu Jul 07, 2005 11:12 pm
Location: Lancashire, UK

Postby stropko » Thu Jul 24, 2008 11:38 pm

I'm trying to stay on the cheap side...under 700 dollars. Old synth sounds from 70's music...like when I was thinking that I was thinking old Who songs with synth (Won't Get Fooled Again, Baba O'Reilly), old Floyd, King Crimson, Emerson, Lake and Palmer (you may have to look them up), etc. There may be nothing available, but I thought I'd check.
stropko
Newbie
Newbie
 
Posts: 21
Joined: Thu Jul 24, 2008 9:58 pm

Postby OriginalJambo » Thu Jul 24, 2008 11:58 pm

The Mono/Poly is awesome. It isn't really fully polyphonic, but the "poly" mode does have its uses.

It does have a great filter, musical sync and cross modulation and despite what some people may say about weak oscillators it has more than enough balls for an analogue mono IMO. It's also rather flexible and considering what SH-101s are going for it's a steal if you can find one for $700.

However if you need poly in the traditional sense the Mono/Poly definitely falls short.
User avatar
OriginalJambo
Synth Explorer
Synth Explorer
 
Posts: 2556
Joined: Sun Jul 09, 2006 12:04 am
Location: Scotland, United Kingdom
Gear: Check my sig

Postby Z » Fri Jul 25, 2008 1:29 am

If your budget is $700, your choices for "good" polyphonic analog synths will be limited. When I say good, I mean 2 oscillators per voice for unison detuning and cross modulation.

The Prophet 600 would probably be your best (and only dual osc poly) choice for $700 and under. A buddy of mine (OMNI26 here on VSE) has one for sale and is bringing it to my furniture shop tomorrow so I can photograph it with my studio lights.

My first "real" synth was an Akai AX-60 back in the late 80's. It's a single osc poly, but has a lot of geat features like keyboard splits & arpeggiator. Many here on VSE complain that that the filter is too harsh and agressive. I have recommended this synth numerous times here on VSE and I have had many nostalgic feelings when doing so (had to sell it mid 90's when money was low). AX-60's sell for $300 - $400 these days.

Another good started analog poly is the Roland Juno 106. It's also a single osc poly, but has a very intuitive layout and great for learning basic subtractive synthesis. Because of certain sounds these synths generate that are popular in dance music, the JU-106's fetch a bit more: $400 - $600.

Other budget analog polys include SCI's MultiTrack and SixTrack. Roland JX-3P, JX-8P & JX-10 offer dual DCO's.

If you can scrape together another $500, you might be ale to score a Roland Jupiter 6. Highly overshadowed by its big brother, Jupiter 8, the JP-6 has a lot of bang for the buck and features the JP-8 lack such as a multi-mode filter, multiple waveform selection for oscillators that go to 32' (16' on JP-8), SOLO UNISON MODE with detune knob and basic MIDI (but can be brought into 21st Century with Synthcom's Europa upgrade).

Best of luck!
User avatar
Z
Synth Explorer
Synth Explorer
 
Posts: 3486
Joined: Wed May 09, 2007 3:08 am
Location: Docking Bay 94 (Dallas, TX)
Gear: Bubble wrap, Styrofoam, boxes, packing tape

Postby SynthiChris » Fri Jul 25, 2008 3:28 am

I dont know how much it is but any VCS3 would work well, EMS Synthi A and EMS VCS3, and the Synthi E
-Ensoniq ESQ-1 Workstation-Ensoniq ESQ-1 Sequencer Expander-ESQ-1 Voice 80 A Cartridge-Sustain Pedal FSW-1
User avatar
SynthiChris
Newbie
Newbie
 
Posts: 18
Joined: Mon Jul 21, 2008 10:39 pm
Location: North Carolina

Postby Z » Fri Jul 25, 2008 3:44 am

Stropko wrote:I'm trying to stay on the cheap side...under 700 dollars.

SynthiChris wrote:I dont know how much it is but any VCS3 would work well, EMS Synthi A and EMS VCS3, and the Synthi E


Tell me where to get any of those EMS synths for under $700 and I'll take a dozen!
User avatar
Z
Synth Explorer
Synth Explorer
 
Posts: 3486
Joined: Wed May 09, 2007 3:08 am
Location: Docking Bay 94 (Dallas, TX)
Gear: Bubble wrap, Styrofoam, boxes, packing tape

Postby stropko » Fri Jul 25, 2008 4:54 am

After careful consideration I figure I can spend a little more. Let's say 1000-1200. Also, I think six voice polyphony (I think that's the technical term...what I mean by that is being able to play six keys at the same time) will suffice. Does that broaden it up?
stropko
Newbie
Newbie
 
Posts: 21
Joined: Thu Jul 24, 2008 9:58 pm

Postby Joey » Fri Jul 25, 2008 6:19 am

stropko wrote:After careful consideration I figure I can spend a little more. Let's say 1000-1200. Also, I think six voice polyphony (I think that's the technical term...what I mean by that is being able to play six keys at the same time) will suffice. Does that broaden it up?


if you can stretch it even more i'd say get a prophet 08 module for 1500

but for 1200 youre not likely to find much with two oscs outside of a prophet 600, or roland JX, which are great synths in themselves, and they will save you A LOT of cash.
No one cares, no one sympathizes,
so you just stay home and play synthesizers.

http://wearereplicants.com
User avatar
Joey
Synth Explorer
Synth Explorer
 
Posts: 1885
Joined: Wed Jan 11, 2006 10:13 pm
Location: Berlin
Gear: 18u Eurorack, Octatrack, Pro2
Band: BLUSH_RESPONSE

Postby crystalmsc » Fri Jul 25, 2008 7:06 am

stropko wrote:six voice polyphony

the JX8P got six voices, the JX10/MKS-70 would allow six fingers with two oscs each, for way less than the budget. you can even get a nice electric piano sound using 12 voices of the later.
Kaossilatron - Voicillator
http://crystaline.bandcamp.com
Station: Ableton Live 10 Suite, Obscurium, Push 2, Ultranova, MS-20m, Wavedrums
User avatar
crystalmsc
Synth Explorer
Synth Explorer
 
Posts: 2860
Joined: Thu Jul 13, 2006 7:15 am
Location: Synth Garden
Gear: uWaveXT,uQ,Pulse+;Ion;MiniBrt
Karma,Mntrb,Volcas,01R;Venom
NordModular,L2X;Evolver;JP8080
MKS70,JD990,D50,MC909,MC80ex
Microcon2;TG77,RS7k,AN200,AN1x
Band: Crystaline

Postby JSRockit » Fri Jul 25, 2008 1:22 pm

SynthiChris wrote:I dont know how much it is but any VCS3 would work well, EMS Synthi A and EMS VCS3, and the Synthi E


Only about 10 times his budget... :lol:
Korg Volcas / 6 x TE POs / MicroBrute / EH Space Drum & Crash Pad
User avatar
JSRockit
Synth Explorer
Synth Explorer
 
Posts: 3911
Joined: Thu Jan 19, 2006 11:15 pm
Location: New York City

Postby shaft9000 » Fri Jul 25, 2008 2:39 pm

Korg Polysix
Sequential Prophet 600
Roland Juno 6, 60
MKS 50, 70 (rackmount)
JX3-P, JX-8P, JX-10

i list the Polysix 1st because it is the closest to a 70's poly. Unfortunately a fully working 70's poly is going to be HUGE and much more expensive. The 80's synths use more IC's so are lighter, smaller and (arguably) more reliable.

all of the above are great for various apps. research and decide which one appeals to you, then hunt it down!
2600.solus.modcan a.eurorack.cs60.JP8.Juno6.A6.sunsyn.volcakeys.jd990.tb303.x0xb0x.revolution.
999.m1am1.RY30.svc350.memotron

shaft9000.muffwiggler.com <- singles & mixtape
shaft9000.bandcamp.com <- spacemusic album
youtube.com/shaft9000 <- various synth demos and studies
User avatar
shaft9000
Supporting Member!
Supporting Member!
 
Posts: 2042
Joined: Tue Nov 14, 2006 3:13 am
Location: VanNuys, CA USA
Real name: Dave
Gear: Whips chains waxes oils dildos DMT TNT the LHC, and a black rubber duckie
Band: moneymoneymoney

Postby Taxidermy » Fri Jul 25, 2008 4:50 pm

Prophet six trak comes to mind.
User avatar
Taxidermy
Junior Member
Junior Member
 
Posts: 118
Joined: Wed Nov 15, 2006 1:18 pm
Location: Vancouver BC
Gear: Little Fatty
Mopho
TX81z
Ion
Casio Rapman

Postby Ian S » Fri Jul 25, 2008 11:57 pm

Another one to consider, if you don't mind not having knobs, is the Korg DW-8000, which you can pick up very cheaply. OK, so the oscillators aren't strictly analogue, using sampled waveforms, but the rest of it's analogue, and it was good enough for Keith Emerson...
Casio PX-320, Odyssey Mk.1, Multiman-S, Andromeda A6, DW-8000, JD-800, Yamaha DX11, AN1x, & SK30, E&MM/Maplin Spectrum, Akai S3000XL, E-Mu Proformance 1, Esi-32, & Classic Keys, Alesis D4, Rickenbacker 4001.
Ian S
Newbie
Newbie
 
Posts: 82
Joined: Mon Jun 27, 2005 4:36 pm
Location: York, England


Return to Buyer's Guide

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 4 guests